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#62262 2-Jun-2010 18:56

I have seen this type of information posted in the US and Europe,

Would one of those who represent an ISP care to post the total amount of traffic that passes through an ISP's System in a 30 day period? both upload and download just to give those of us an idea to the amount of Bandwidth is floating around?

Don't give any information that is protected or such, just a total ballpark figure.

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#337489 2-Jun-2010 18:58

Am I missing something...just seeing a blank post apart from your sig......

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#337491 2-Jun-2010 18:59

lol yep my bad, I bumped the enter key while typing the subject line hehe

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#337499 2-Jun-2010 19:31

crazed:Would one of those who represent an ISP care to post the total amount of traffic that passes through an ISP's System in a 30 day period? both upload and download just to give those of us an idea to the amount of Bandwidth is floating around?

I doubt you'll get anyone post as this is quite commercially sensitive - good luck anyways

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#337513 2-Jun-2010 19:51

Would be interested in this also. Its too bad no one will want to.

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#337517 2-Jun-2010 20:08

I was going to tell you to have a read of johl's excetel blog to hopefully get some sort of idea of what NZ's larger ISPs would be like. Now his blog costs a $20 donation to view so this info will cost you.

The amount of bandwidth floating around is larely irrelevant with the use of caches and prioritisation. The important factor is the user experience, and for some ISPs this is constrained by their DSL backhaul that they can purchase off Telecom (not counting LLU).

ISP to ISP will also have vastly different usage based on their plans/markeing, again as above the only thing that really matters is that there is enough for their users.

No one here in their right mind is going to post how much bandwidth their ISP has on tap, not at least those who value their jobs.

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#337529 2-Jun-2010 20:26

insane: No one here in their right mind is going to post how much bandwidth their ISP has on tap, not at least those who value their jobs.

That pretty much sums it up. Sorry bud.

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#337534 2-Jun-2010 20:44

It's not a "simple" question to answer anyway (agree, no one will answer it for commercial reasons)

ISP's have International links, domestic links and peering links. You'd have to look at the aggregates of all those figures. Not really *hard* to add up, but my point is that you don't have a single "up/down" path like you do on a home connection.

You could also have a lot of traffic that never leaves the network, i.e. a customer that has two network connections to the same ISP shipping data over those links and never really "leaving" the ISP's network.

I say all this because you mention "passing through the system" but these days, there's not a single point to measure that.

I suspect you'd like to see what ISP's Domestic and International links are doing. Sharing such info would be a "Marched out the door" offence though. At least in my experience, someone might be open to sharing.

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#337594 2-Jun-2010 22:15

RalphFromSnap:
insane: No one here in their right mind is going to post how much bandwidth their ISP has on tap, not at least those who value their jobs.

That pretty much sums it up. Sorry bud.

The reason I know this is very sensitive is on a night out, over beers, I asked the owner of an ISP what their international capacity was. Quickest way to stop all conversations

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#337598 2-Jun-2010 22:24

Thanks for the answers, I'm not interested in capacity or anything like that, just something like: "ISP X has 350TB's of data traveling through its network a month."

Can understand why it would be commercially sensitive data, just would be interesting to know.

As for connections that an ISP has, yes I am aware that ISP's may infact have many connections. I used the term "up and down" when possibly it would have better to use in and out? lol

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#337600 2-Jun-2010 22:40

Best I could find (someone posted this link on NZNOG a few months back):

http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=4648

Shows that Telecom, where they peer in the US, move between 20-50Gbps. That was in April 2009 though.

Accurate? Who knows...

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#337624 3-Jun-2010 00:56

Orcon used to show you the graphs of their international uplinks on their website from what looked like cacti graphs. I think it was updated every few minutes and showed you 24 hours of activity.

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#337625 3-Jun-2010 01:06

insane: I was going to tell you to have a read of johl's excetel blog to hopefully get some sort of idea of what NZ's larger ISPs would be like. Now his blog costs a $20 donation to view so this info will cost you.

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http://public.mrtg.exetel.com.au/bwsummary/ExetelBandwidthSummary.html
http://public.mrtg.exetel.com.au/bwsummary/total-supplier-bandwidth.html

UK ISP Plusnet
http://www.plus.net/support/network_performance/broadband_bandwidth_usage.shtml?supporta=networkpbroadbandusage
http://www.plus.net/supportpages.html?a=212

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but seriously not many ISP's around the world are brave enough to put the real
stats out there.

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#337650 3-Jun-2010 08:38

I take bribes for such answers.

Chocolate or beer works.

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#337652 3-Jun-2010 08:42

Lets be honest. Telecom just sucks in pretty much everything these days and the New Zealander is the one short changed.

If any Telecom rep reads this: yes, I am willing to go into a public face to face discussion about performance.

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#337661 3-Jun-2010 08:52

beachmark: Lets be honest. Telecom just sucks in pretty much everything these days and the New Zealander is the one short changed.

If any Telecom rep reads this: yes, I am willing to go into a public face to face discussion about performance.

Yes, this totally relevant to the discussion [/sarcasm]

I'd put money that Telecom would be more willing to talk to a Banana.

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