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Topic # 68010 13-Sep-2010 18:15
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I'd like to know more about where NGN FTTN got up to?

Can anyone point me to some resources?

Cheers Don

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  Reply # 379395 13-Sep-2010 18:41
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The Chorus website is probably the best place to look, that has up to date lists of cabinet notices. The Telecom wholesale site also has a lot including coverage maps.

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  Reply # 379508 14-Sep-2010 07:34
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Coverage maps will also soon include VDSL2 and GPON coverage

Seems like the project is around 60-70% complete and ahead of schedule, rest of the info is on the sites Steve listed.

Cyril

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 379597 14-Sep-2010 11:14
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Thanks guys, and C, that was a great write up on WP.

Cheers Don

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  Reply # 379612 14-Sep-2010 12:01
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Hi, Don, totally uncommented on though :)

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  Reply # 379649 14-Sep-2010 13:14
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DonGould: Thanks guys, and C, that was a great write up on WP.


Cheers Don


WP??




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  Reply # 379982 15-Sep-2010 06:51
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WhirlPool, no suds required.

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  Reply # 380125 15-Sep-2010 13:37
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Do you have a link to your post?

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  Reply # 380161 15-Sep-2010 14:44
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Hmm, weren't we supposed to be getting VDSL2+ sometime around now too?

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  Reply # 380185 15-Sep-2010 15:28
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sbiddle: The Chorus website is probably the best place to look, that has up to date lists of cabinet notices. The Telecom wholesale site also has a lot including coverage maps.

I have to disagree about Chorus being a good FTTH resource, tends to be quite Chorus-centric and seems to assume that FTTH will be a Telecom monopoly as usual...

The rest of the world is doing FTTH too and there are a few variations on the multi-service theme so that fibre network interfaces can provice equivalent services to copper, eg ONTs with battery backed-up POTS and broadcast TV outlets. Such integrated network devices can be designed for reliability and also control which services to keep up during a power outage. CFH has not made much of an issue about what connects on the customer's end, considering their latest iteration includes Layer 2

In terms of who gets to negotiate contracts with FTTH/FTTP:

CFH announced shortlist 9th Sept

Editorial on CommsDay




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  Reply # 380190 15-Sep-2010 15:33
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webwat: good FTTH resource


This thread is specifically about Telecom NZ's NGN fttN progress not fttH.

Thanks for the heads up on the other interesting info though.

Cheers Don

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  Reply # 380246 15-Sep-2010 17:22
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DonGould:
webwat: good FTTH resource


This thread is specifically about Telecom NZ's NGN fttN progress not fttH.

Thanks for the heads up on the other interesting info though.

Cheers Don

Somehow I read FTTH, perhaps should have put my glasses on today... or grabbed some coffee! Will be interesting to see how things develop with other fibre providers, but I understand that Telecom's FTTH trials included a single copper pair to each house as well.

Well since I've gone off on that tangent, my guess is that Telecom's FTTP (to the premises) proposal to CFH would have relied heavily on existing fibre pathways to their DSL cabinets. Fibre goes through splitter cabinets around 1km from the average home, with minimal feeder lines back to the exchange where competitors would still have to pay high prices for colocation contracts with peering banned. 

A big part of the NGN was supposed to be an Ethernet Backbone, anybody know how far away that is and what level of fault tolerance it will have?




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  Reply # 380272 15-Sep-2010 18:48
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webwat: peering banned.


Is it really?! wow

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  Reply # 380409 16-Sep-2010 00:40
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cyril7: Coverage maps will also soon include VDSL2 and GPON coverage

Seems like the project is around 60-70% complete and ahead of schedule, rest of the info is on the sites Steve listed.

Cyril


According to www.telecomwholesale.co.nz/maps my area is due for a cabinet (ADSL2+) in April 2011 but also cabinet (VDSL) in Jan 2011

Does that seems backwards to anyone else?

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  Reply # 380707 16-Sep-2010 15:37
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webwat: 

Well since I've gone off on that tangent, my guess is that Telecom's FTTP (to the premises) proposal to CFH would have relied heavily on existing fibre pathways to their DSL cabinets. Fibre goes through splitter cabinets around 1km from the average home, with minimal feeder lines back to the exchange where competitors would still have to pay high prices for colocation contracts with peering banned. 


A big part of the NGN was supposed to be an Ethernet Backbone, anybody know how far away that is and what level of fault tolerance it will have?


 

1) For a new cabinet, it's not the lack of copper back to the exchange that will generally be the issue.  It's the fact that most of the lines within the bundle going towards the customer (i.e. away from the exchange direction) will be connected to the local cabinet, and the poor signal in your cable pair will get clobbered, so if you try and run DSL back to the exchange it's going to be problems.  Yeah it may work, but potentially slowly and erratically.  In some places, you're right, there is very little copper back to the exchange, but in this case you would not have been able to get DSL at all off the cabinet before a DSLAM was put into it (due to the transmission technology between the cabinet and exchange).

What do you mean by peering?

 

2) Every new cabinet in the FTTN roll out is hooked up to the Ethernet "backbone".  It's a core aggregation technology.  It's there. What do you mean by fault tolerance?




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  Reply # 380802 16-Sep-2010 18:58
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just want to point out that the rest of world is not all moving to FTTN, the US is not and the UK is not, probably only France is in the similar situation as Aus and NZ are in..

but there are countries that already has it, Singapore, Japan and Souther Korea...Finland maybe..

i would vote to get Pacific Fibre prioritized than NGNLaughing

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