Shared Internet connection for copyrighted material?

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#92681 3-Nov-2011 22:14

Hi All,

Apparently some statutes things have been implemented in the last few months about copyright material being downloaded.

The wireless router has password protection.

About six months ago the password was given to a visitor, within 2 days the guest had downloaded 40GB of data. Only after they'd left it was it found out because the internet speed was put to 64kbps (over the cap).

My best guess is a whole lot of torrents were started before the visitor arrived and with a fast internet connected they all went yippee and went for it.

I have a Linksys AG310 router how do I protect myself from these copyright statutes as well as keeping within the privacy statutes?

All help on this one would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Woolly.

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#540939 3-Nov-2011 22:17

Don't give out the Password to the WIFI

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#540952 3-Nov-2011 22:43

LOL,

A good idea but people ask for internet connection for emails etc.

I'm looking for a simple solution for a home network so that I can prevent or illegal P2P without limiting connectivity?

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#540965 3-Nov-2011 23:11

Woolly: LOL,

A good idea but people ask for internet connection for emails etc.

I'm looking for a simple solution for a home network so that I can prevent or illegal P2P without limiting connectivity?

John gave you the right answer.

If you give someone your car keys you can't tell the car where not to go. So you don't give them the keys

Same deal here.

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#540969 3-Nov-2011 23:27

Woolly: LOL,

A good idea but people ask for internet connection for emails etc.

I'm looking for a simple solution for a home network so that I can prevent or illegal P2P without limiting connectivity?

there is no SIMPLE solution to 'limit' this. johnr is correct

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#540970 3-Nov-2011 23:29

Linuxluver:
Woolly: LOL,

A good idea but people ask for internet connection for emails etc.

I'm looking for a simple solution for a home network so that I can prevent or illegal P2P without limiting connectivity?

John gave you the right answer.

If you give someone your car keys you can't tell the car where not to go. So you don't give them the keys

Same deal here.

This pretty much sums it up

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#540971 3-Nov-2011 23:38

But the difference between a Car and an Internet connection is with a Car if someone breaks the law (speeds or drives the car without a WOF/Registration) the person driving the car gets charged not the owner.

With the internet if someone else is driving (using) your internet for downloading copyrighted materials the owner of the Internet is libel not the actual person downloading copyrighted material.

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#540972 3-Nov-2011 23:39

LennonNZ: But the difference between a Car and an Internet connection is with a Car if someone breaks the law (speeds or drives the car without a WOF/Registration) the person driving the car gets charged not the owner.

With the internet if someone else is driving (using) your internet for downloading copyrighted materials the owner of the Internet is libel not the actual person downloading copyrighted material.

But if the driver does a burnout or something along the lines of that the car WILL be impounded.

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#540974 3-Nov-2011 23:44

So true, it's either a no or go situation.

What I'd like is techy solution where I could limit certain traffic within the local network.

If someone can come up with a router that does this, that would be great.

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#540976 3-Nov-2011 23:46

Woolly: So true, it's either a no or go situation.

What I'd like is techy solution where I could limit certain traffic within the local network.

If someone can come up with a router that does this, that would be great.

Traffic management is possible but is very fiddly. I'm sure some people here would be able to explain their examples of it and how they worked it.. Would of been good for me a couple of years ago on 25mbit cable doing 400gb a month with 6 people claiming they don't download anything...

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#540996 4-Nov-2011 02:03

I run tomato on my router and even with QoS setup correctly I find I only catch about 15% of torrent traffic. The only way is to set a low priority and speed limit on all traffic and prioritize the important traffic.

As soon as the bit torrent client encrypts data or someone uses a vpn you have little to no hope in managing p2p at home without spending up large on equipment which still won't be 100% effective.

Best set out house flat rules, log all traffic on your router and force those torrent wh0res to get their own internet connection.

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#541003 4-Nov-2011 06:16

Woolly:
I'm looking for a simple solution for a home network so that I can prevent or illegal P2P without limiting connectivity?

There isn't a simple technical solution. The solution is to tell anybody who uses the internet not to download copyrighted material.

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#541021 4-Nov-2011 07:52

A technical solution will be expensive. As said it's not a catch all solution either.

So you don't give the access to visitors you don't know, or if you trust visitors then you tell them to behave. Even so before they connect tell them to make sure any P2P software is off. They don't have to download the whole file, only a part of it, for your connection to be identified.

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#541030 4-Nov-2011 08:53

You don't sound like you are very sure about the new law. Might pay to have a read up here http://3strikes.net.nz

Lazy is such an ugly word, I prefer to call it selective participation

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#541048 4-Nov-2011 09:24

Morph:
LennonNZ: But the difference between a Car and an Internet connection is with a Car if someone breaks the law (speeds or drives the car without a WOF/Registration) the person driving the car gets charged not the owner.

With the internet if someone else is driving (using) your internet for downloading copyrighted materials the owner of the Internet is libel not the actual person downloading copyrighted material.

But if the driver does a burnout or something along the lines of that the car WILL be impounded.

OT// And if you are the RO, and weren't driving the car when it was impounded, you can visit your local station, fill out a deceleration and (potentially) recover your car straight away from impound... //OT

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#541290 4-Nov-2011 19:26

Morph:
LennonNZ: But the difference between a Car and an Internet connection is with a Car if someone breaks the law (speeds or drives the car without a WOF/Registration) the person driving the car gets charged not the owner.

With the internet if someone else is driving (using) your internet for downloading copyrighted materials the owner of the Internet is libel not the actual person downloading copyrighted material.

But if the driver does a burnout or something along the lines of that the car WILL be impounded.

Will your car get impounded if you use it to transport/distribute illegally copied material? Didn't think so.

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