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keriboi

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#268076 26-Feb-2020 21:44

So going all out. Can you guys pick this build to bits. Any ideas/feedback?

Uses are gaming and video editing/photoshop

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/W6HkHB

Ryzen 9 3900X

Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler

Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard

G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive

Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card

Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case

Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX

Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit

AOC CQ32G1 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor

Cooler Master Devastator 3 Wired Gaming Keyboard With Optical Mouse

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#2427763 26-Feb-2020 22:08

Only recommendation would be to get a gsync monitor instead of the one you have picked. But I guess if you limit your FPS below 144 it should be fine.

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keriboi

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#2427764 26-Feb-2020 22:12

Reading reviews it will work gsync. I cant find any gsync reviews in that price range

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#2427766 26-Feb-2020 22:15

Also with regard to the case, take a look at Phanteks from PBTech and see if one of those cases would be better value for money, case is also a personal preference, nothing wrong with the one you picked you might be able to get something nicer.

keriboi

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#2427770 26-Feb-2020 22:21

Tried to use pbtech system build but it wont allow me to add the 3900x as its not in stock at the webstore yet its in stock in their shops. Looking at Computer Lounge or Playtech

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#2427774 26-Feb-2020 22:37

This build is a mixed bag of lollies..

I’d dump out
The nasty KBM combo and go with a mechanical
The 32gb of 3200 ram and downsize to 16gb 3600 instead
The Samsung m.2 for the crucial P1 1tb
Save money and go with a 550watt psu

With the savings I’d go with a 2080 super over the 2070

That cpu and gpu combo plus the higher ram boost will push some high FPS

I just glanced at this and changed enough to fit a 2080 in, I’d probably change a few other pieces too like the monitor as well and go for the newer CQ27G2 if you’re wanting a budget high frame rate monitor.

Also download W10 from Microsoft and buy a key. There’s another $150 odd back in your pocket

keriboi

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#2427838 27-Feb-2020 07:00

Thanks for the help. I have a kb/mouse already. Current computer is going to the kids.

Is 550w enough for all that?

I will look into the 2080. Good idea

How much slower will the crucial be than the samsung? I was thinking I could go down to a 500gb and get another later on.

Playtech has the g2 monitor so all good

How do I get windows cheaper? I tried their website and couldnt find a place to buy key. I already downloadsd a usb install. What would happen if I used my current computers key? It was windows 7 and microsoft said it wouldnt work.

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#2427857 27-Feb-2020 07:35

keriboi:

How do I get windows cheaper? I tried their website and couldnt find a place to buy key. I already downloadsd a usb install. What would happen if I used my current computers key? It was windows 7 and microsoft said it wouldnt work.

He may mean buy one from one of the websites that sell keys; but if you're only paying $30 for a key it's highly likely it'll be a MSDN\Enterprise\stolen key and eventually get deactivated... If you're OK with risking something like that (I would not recommend it) you could try something like this:

https://www.howtogeek.com/266072/you-can-still-get-windows-10-for-free-with-a-windows-7-8-or-8.1-key/

which is probably safer... though techincally not a "valid" licence according to Microsoft - but less likely to be deactivated due to dodgy source.

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#2427859 27-Feb-2020 07:45

If you want to check on pricing I suggest you email list to DTC System and Extreme PC they often will do more and bulk discount.

A 2K monitor is great.

Also I'm an Intel fan so can't comment on Ryzen.

The M.2 is the best thing to buy over any mechanical drive and you want to run of that where possible and save files.

Try at get at least 7200rpm drive in any case.

Graphic cards do not need as much power as the good old days. Check the spec on the Gigabyte manufacture site for recommendation of PSU eg 650W.

https://www.gigabyte.com/nz/Graphics-Card/GV-N207SGAMING-OC-8GC/sp#sp

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#2427904 27-Feb-2020 08:00

I disagree entirely with 32 v 16GB. The speed increase of 3600 v 3200 memory will be minimal real world, but the difference between 16 and 32GB will be much more noticeable IF his system makes use of it.

If he really needs 16GB only, then I don't think I'd spring extra for 3600 memory, I'd probably get a 7200 RPM spinning disk instead.

I'd also go 2K vs 4K Monitor. 1440P gaming is awesome.

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#2428068 27-Feb-2020 09:56

You don't say anywhere but is this primarily a gaming rig? It all looks pretty good to me but here's my thoughts.

Personally I think you've gone overkill on the CPU as well as the RAM. A 3700X, 16GB of Ram, and the 2080 super already suggested by others will game better. We have just started entering the days of 8 cores being common and if past experience is anything to go by it will be a long time before you need more to game well. Unless of course you plan to do other things at the same time and want the extra resources for streaming or something - applies to RAM to.

I'm remembering the days of my first quad core CPU - Core 2 quad Q9300. It gamed very well but most of the people I knew stuck with Dual cores and got a few more years out of them with no real penalty for gaming. It's actually only fairly recently that dual core became too slow for a lot of games.

16G of RAM has been the sweet spot for gaming for a very long time now so perhaps it's smart to anticipate that changing soon, but at this stage there is still little point from a straight gaming perspective. Bear in mind I will probably just get 32G myself next time regardless.

I built myself a new rig in aug 2018 with a 2700X and 16GB of RAM, even that CPU rarely gets over 50% used with me gaming and watching netflix at the same time :)

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#2428081 27-Feb-2020 10:26

A lot of people seem to have missed this from the requirements:

Uses are gaming and video editing/photoshop

Would be nice if the OP could give a hint on the percentage split of that though. E.g. Is it 50/50? 90/10 gaming? Cause that might change opinions and views on a few things. If you're doing a lot of video editing and rendering I think you're going to need that CPU and all that RAM! But if its heavily skewed towards gaming...then maybe dropping those down and upping the video card is the go.

Wish I could justify spending that much on a PC! :(

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#2428098 27-Feb-2020 10:53

I would drop the Gigabyte x570 gaming MB you are getting and get the Gigabyte X570 master instead, I got one for my ryzen 3900x build and its fantastic.

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#2428101 27-Feb-2020 10:59

$650 for a motherboard? Really?!

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#2428112 27-Feb-2020 11:12

networkn:

$650 for a motherboard? Really?!

Go big or go home, if you are spending this sort of money on a rig might as well do it properly, just my opinion.

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#2428140 27-Feb-2020 11:57

JaseNZ:

networkn:

$650 for a motherboard? Really?!

Go big or go home, if you are spending this sort of money on a rig might as well do it properly, just my opinion.

Just wondering, what do you notice with your $650 motherboard that you wouldn't get from a say.. $450 motherboard. I mean, your money, no worries there, but in terms of value proposition, it's easy to get wiped out spending $$$$ on hype.

I mean if we talk HDD's there is an appreciable difference between say a 5400/7200 rpm drive, or Spinning vs SSD etc.. Even to some degree, bigger processor...

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