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superrex

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Topic # 30132 29-Jan-2009 18:57

Two months waiting coming true......

The Real Jasper coming pls see the pics attached .. and all spots marked it . I brought the Pro, and confirmed Arcade with jasper also avilabale. Any questions abt JASPER FREE TO ASK !!!

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Reply # 192839 30-Jan-2009 00:10

I've been waiting for a Jasper as well to replace my launch console. Where did you buy your one from?

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Reply # 192874 30-Jan-2009 10:16

So what is so much better about the "Jasper" Xbox 360 that it has people rushing to spend more money to get the same console they allready have ?

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Reply # 192883 30-Jan-2009 10:33

Jasper cores are 65nm CPU AND GPU. Jasper Arcade comes with 256MB flash memory built in, but not sure if this is available in Pro 60GB motherboard. NXE comes natively built in. Less power usage, and "quieter".

Falcon cores are 65nm CPU but GPU is still 90nm.

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Reply # 192888 30-Jan-2009 11:49

Oh is that all ? I was expecting from the sheer amount of "Jasper" topics around that it might be something drastic ... just a die shrink ... so is it worth spending more money on ?

Though thinking about it, is it going to solve that Red Ring of Death issue when parts came away from the board due to heat ? I had to replace my 360 for that ... not an issue now as I swapped it for a PS3, wanted a Blu-ray player and M$ were adamant that they were never ever ever ever ever going to do that! (we'll see I guess :-)

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Reply # 192906 30-Jan-2009 13:02

Well die shrink is a very big deal for Xbox360/Microsoft to minimise RRoD.

I'd still get Xbox360 for its shear library size of game titles, and even later, to get PS3 for BluRay.

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Reply # 192910 30-Jan-2009 13:15

Yup the 360 games library is much better, but I have trouble convincing the boss (aka wife) that I "need" both systems :-)
A Blu-ray I could convince her as the movies look good, so I made sure I got a player that coud do games as well hehehe

If a 360 were to pop up cheap I'd get it, same with the Wiiiiiiiiii

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Reply # 192914 30-Jan-2009 13:23

Mark: Oh is that all ? I was expecting from the sheer amount of "Jasper" topics around that it might be something drastic ... just a die shrink ... so is it worth spending more money on ?

There's only two topics on Geekzone about the Jasper, plus another two on the official Xbox forums so I'd hardly call that a sheer amount!!

I think for those of us still using the launch console then yes it is a big deal. For one I can get HDMI, plus I've just upgraded our TV and speaker set and the new cabinet will probably have a bit less air flowing through it, so getting the latest revision which runs the coolest so far is important for my situation in order to reduce the chance of my launch console getting the RROD once it's in the new cabinet.

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Reply # 192917 30-Jan-2009 13:39

2 here yes, but I googled it after reading here and saw about a million hits! :-)

There is more ot the interweb thing that Geekzone :-)

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Reply # 192979 30-Jan-2009 18:56

chiefie: Jasper cores are 65nm CPU AND GPU. Jasper Arcade comes with 256MB flash memory built in, but not sure if this is available in Pro 60GB motherboard. NXE comes natively built in. Less power usage, and "quieter".

Falcon cores are 65nm CPU but GPU is still 90nm.

Pro 60G has 512M DDR3 buit in memory .

Yes , Japser has both 65nm CPU and GPU,

I dont think the jasper can prevent RROD, but unleast can reduce the probility. Comparing the Arcade one, I strong suggest using the hard drive playing. From my test, I played Gear Of War 2 for 4hrs using hard drive and put hand on the back feeling just warm. The main reason of RRod. It's caused by the GPU's balled connections to the motherboard coming loose from previous heat stress which has warped the board and/or caused the GPU TIM to pull away from the die.

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Reply # 192980 30-Jan-2009 19:04

corksta: I've been waiting for a Jasper as well to replace my launch console. Where did you buy your one from?

I brought from Noel leeming , the best deal which i think . The Pro Xmas holiday bundal with two games Kung Fu Panda & Lego Indiana Jones . Beware , some time they may still have old stock. Check the Lots Number !!!!!!

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Reply # 193832 3-Feb-2009 22:24

superrex, could you please have a look in the rear vent and see if you can see white stickers on the fans?

Cheers.

P.S. I've sent you an email concerning one of your pics that needs your urgent attention (regarding your privacy).

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Reply # 193843 3-Feb-2009 22:45

Unfortunately they still use the same cheap, noisy optical drives. The upside being that at least you can now install games to the HDD which as long as you don't want to use it as a DVD player makes it a reasonably quiet machine now.

The PSU Wattage is not a guarantee of a Jasper unit, as in the states at least they were still packing some of the older higher-wattage units, it's possible they're gone now. It's the magic "12.1A" that you want to look out for which you can see without opening the packaging (through the little window on the box).

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Reply # 193855 3-Feb-2009 23:28

I managed to find a Jasper! PlayTech (http://www.playtech.co.nz/category.php?action=show&id=747) actually have them specifically listed as a Jasper so I went to their shop and bought one. $439 as well which isn't too bad!

Team: CSON
Lot: 0849X
Maf. Date: 2008-12-08
150W PSU

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Reply # 193858 3-Feb-2009 23:45

stevenz: Unfortunately they still use the same cheap, noisy optical drives. The upside being that at least you can now install games to the HDD which as long as you don't want to use it as a DVD player makes it a reasonably quiet machine now.

The fans still play their part in the chorus of noise. Hence the reason I've asked the OP to identify the fans.
Delta fans (white stickers) have a drone to them that drives me nuts. Nidecs (no sticker) tend to be alot more tolerable. Team CSON tend to often use Nidec fans whereas Team FDOU don't seem to use them at all.
Having all these reported Pro Jaspers from Team CSON gives me some hope that I will be able to find a quiet unit.

The PSU Wattage is not a guarantee of a Jasper unit, as in the states at least they were still packing some of the older higher-wattage units, it's possible they're gone now. It's the magic "12.1A" that you want to look out for which you can see without opening the packaging (through the little window on the box).

A 150w power supply is a guaranteed Jasper seeing as that is the only unit a 150w psu will power (and physically connect to).
The magic 12.1A on the label is visible through the Arcade units with a bit of forceful rearranging, but its not as easy on the Pro boxes to see.
The other option, if the label is concealed, is to look at the lot number on the box like in the OP's second pic.

LOT NO: 0849X.

'08' denotes the year (2008) and 49 denotes the week. Anything past this timestamp is very likely a Jasper. Its not as reassuring as seeing that '12.1A' on the console, but its something.

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Reply # 193859 3-Feb-2009 23:46

corksta: I managed to find a Jasper! PlayTech (http://www.playtech.co.nz/category.php?action=show&id=747) actually have them specifically listed as a Jasper so I went to their shop and bought one. $439 as well which isn't too bad!

Team: CSON
Lot: 0849X
Maf. Date: 2008-12-08
150W PSU

If you could also identify the fans I would very much appreciate it. Let us know if you can see any white stickers on them.

Cheers.

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