The router guide - what to look for and what is best.

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#2914769 16-May-2022 22:18

For those (still) running EdgeRouter's - Ubiquiti suprisingly has released new firmware ~ an hour ago.
https://community.ui.com/releases/EdgeMAX-EdgeRouter-Firmware-v2-0-9-hotfix-3/bcbaedc8-41df-4a97-b389-bb122c8905cd

This is a hotfix. Bugfixes -

Fixed CVE-2020-15078 in OpenVPN
Fixed CVE-2022-0778 in openssl
Fixed CVE-2018-25032 in zlib
Fixed CVE-2020-27827 in lldpd
Fixed CVE-2020-13848 and CVE-2021-28302 in libupnp
Fixed command injection in WebUI

With the following know issues -

Known issues -

- [DPI] - Sometimes DPI is reporting wrong rx/tx counters
- [Offloading] - L2TP IPSec traffic is not being offloaded on Mediatek-based routers (ER-X, ER-X-SFP, EP-R6)
- [Offloading] - VLAN traffic is not being offloaded on ER-12

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#2914827 17-May-2022 08:41

CVE from 2018 being patched 4 years later :O

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#2914829 17-May-2022 08:44

mentalinc:
CVE from 2018 being patched 4 years later :O

Better late than never 😌

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#2914830 17-May-2022 08:45

As most have questions on the future of the EdgeMax line up from Ubiquiti - I found this which talks about their commitment to keeping this line going.
https://community.ui.com/questions/EdgeMAX-Status-Update/c78dd5ce-06a4-4c89-a704-b49f49df6667

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#2915081 17-May-2022 13:54

@Jiriteach I, along with many other people don't believe that. Do you believe them with firmware development being practically halted for a few years and the fact there are CVE's that exist for years before being patched? It is running an out of date Debian release with likely more CVE's hanging about. Yes, it is stable but also it is a liability having it on many networks as I can't imagine Ubiquiti being quick to patch a Zero Day if one was found.

This is why many people are transitioning to other platforms (Mikrotik, Vyatta or other software firewalls).

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#2915139 17-May-2022 14:58

michaelmurfy:

@Jiriteach I, along with many other people don't believe that. Do you believe them with firmware development being practically halted for a few years and the fact there are CVE's that exist for years before being patched? It is running an out of date Debian release with likely more CVE's hanging about. Yes, it is stable but also it is a liability having it on many networks as I can't imagine Ubiquiti being quick to patch a Zero Day if one was found.

This is why many people are transitioning to other platforms (Mikrotik, Vyatta or other software firewalls).

Oh totally I agree! Posted it as I found it interesting that they would come out now and say they are commited. Also interesting they released a hotfix for the EdgeMax lineup. Totally random. I've moved away from the EdgeMax line up using the Unifi range and theres almost too many updates - lol!

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#2915831 19-May-2022 06:00

It's a matter of time before the first „dreaming UniCry car charger“ is hacked. Then one can only hope that no serious damage can be done. These fully integrated proprietary solutions certainly have their fanboys (and girls), but they won't last in the long run. If the decisive developer leaves, the customers are left out in the rain again and then there will be something else, new, colourful (, more expensive) as a successor.

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#2935820 29-Jun-2022 10:51

We need to get a new router.

I had gone a bit through the pages in this topic and thought Ubiquiti EdgeRouter would be the way to go, then skipped to the end and see it's no longer recommended.

What do people recommend for a ### non techy ### person like myself? i.e all I need it to do is plug in and effectively work, and if configuration is needed it is simple to do.

My ISP (NOW) sells Nokia HA-140W for $168 so that's an option.

We have 1xTV using wifi, my son games using wifi, and Mrs Duck streams using wifi. So the wifi needs to handle that. I am hardwired on ethernet.

We have 6x ethernet cables preinstalled in various rooms, I use one in the office and a Ubiquiti Access Point in our ceiling uses another. 4x slots empty at the moment, but when we upgrade our TV it will use another of them (the TV ethernet stopped working for some reason so its now using wifi). If I understand it correctly we can get a simple switch if the router only has 4x ethernet slots.

Recommendations that give best bang for buck for an average home user like myself?

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#2935841 29-Jun-2022 11:48

duckDecoy:

What do people recommend for a ### non techy ### person like myself? i.e all I need it to do is plug in and effectively work, and if configuration is needed it is simple to do.

My ISP (NOW) sells Nokia HA-140W for $168 so that's an option.

Unless you are able to support yourself go with what your ISP recommends otherwise you are on your own.

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#2935865 29-Jun-2022 12:37

duckDecoy:

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What do people recommend for a ### non techy ### person like myself? i.e all I need it to do is plug in and effectively work, and if configuration is needed it is simple to do.

... If I understand it correctly we can get a simple switch if the router only has 4x ethernet slots.

Recommendations that give best bang for buck for an average home user like myself?

ISP routers are generally now very good. The one possible exception (and usual source of complaints / unrealistic expectations) is the wifi. If you've got a WAP to handle that though, then the simplest, easiest most reliable option is the ISP option.

If wifi was an issue, a mesh solution is (usually) easiest. Last I checked, NOW did have a supported mesh option if you needed it.

EDIT TO ADD: and yes, a simple unmanaged switch will give you additional ethernet ports; they are the ethernet equivalent of a power strip/multibox for 240V.

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#2963989 6-Sep-2022 19:59

duckDecoy:

We need to get a new router.

I had gone a bit through the pages in this topic and thought Ubiquiti EdgeRouter would be the way to go, then skipped to the end and see it's no longer recommended.

What do people recommend for a ### non techy ### person like myself? i.e all I need it to do is plug in and effectively work, and if configuration is needed it is simple to do.

My ISP (NOW) sells Nokia HA-140W for $168 so that's an option.

We have 1xTV using wifi, my son games using wifi, and Mrs Duck streams using wifi. So the wifi needs to handle that. I am hardwired on ethernet.

We have 6x ethernet cables preinstalled in various rooms, I use one in the office and a Ubiquiti Access Point in our ceiling uses another. 4x slots empty at the moment, but when we upgrade our TV it will use another of them (the TV ethernet stopped working for some reason so its now using wifi). If I understand it correctly we can get a simple switch if the router only has 4x ethernet slots.

Recommendations that give best bang for buck for an average home user like myself?

I'm in a similar boat to this person, but am reasonably techie. I don't work in the IT profession, but am OK with exploring all the different menus / options a router might have. What would be a good upgrade from my Huawei HG659?

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#2963994 6-Sep-2022 20:08

Any particular reason your are looking to upgrade - is there any feature(s) you’re looking for that the HG659 doesn’t have? Or just looking for something a bit more advanced to play around with?

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#2964043 6-Sep-2022 23:38

froob: just looking for something a bit more advanced to play around with?

Couldn't have put it any better myself TBH. Exactly this, and I am having constant issues with my Xbox Series X and ports etc etc, and can't seem to sort it on the Huawei.

Also, perhaps I have irrational fears about routers provided by ISPs as being inferior.

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#2964044 7-Sep-2022 00:08

BLazeD:

Also, perhaps I have irrational fears about routers provided by ISPs as being inferior.

Wildly incorrect. The routers that ISP's provide are often very, very good for your normal home user and often have mesh kits and some rather advanced features. You should never have to touch anything for gaming (do not port forward to gaming consoles) as doing so can actually open you up for much worse.

You've got another thread on the subject so continue posting there but adding WiFi extenders is likely making things really bad for you and adding to your problems: https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=66&topicid=299427&page_no=1#2964042

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#2964061 7-Sep-2022 07:53

michaelmurfy:

BLazeD:

Also, perhaps I have irrational fears about routers provided by ISPs as being inferior.

Wildly incorrect. The routers that ISP's provide are often very, very good for your normal home user and often have mesh kits and some rather advanced features. You should never have to touch anything for gaming (do not port forward to gaming consoles) as doing so can actually open you up for much worse.

You've got another thread on the subject so continue posting there but adding WiFi extenders is likely making things really bad for you and adding to your problems: https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=66&topicid=299427&page_no=1#2964042

Thank you for that. I will search here for some Xbox answers, but in short, Microsoft do recommend some port forwarding and I setup a dedicated internal IP for the Xbox. https://support.xbox.com/en-NZ/help/hardware-network/connect-network/network-ports-used-xbox-live

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