Structured cabling retrofit in my house

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#342353 16-Jun-2010 15:42

CutCutCut: I believe solid core Cat5e is able to be crimped with the right rj45 modular plugs. Is there any reason why I shouldn't make patch cables with solid core Cat5e myself?

Utter pain when used as patch cable IMHO

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#342359 16-Jun-2010 16:12

Duly noted.

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#342425 16-Jun-2010 18:50

Where's a good place to get patch cables from? Cables direct have 30cm ones for $1.78 + gst.

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#342445 16-Jun-2010 20:37

CutCutCut: Where's a good place to get patch cables from? Cables direct have 30cm ones for $1.78 + gst.

That seems like a good price.

You can get the wire and the plugs and do it yourself, but that really only makes sense if you are making really long ones, for short ones the premade cant be beat IMO.

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#342527 17-Jun-2010 06:52

CutCutCut: Where's a good place to get patch cables from? Cables direct have 30cm ones for $1.78 + gst.

Most of the $2 style shops sell cat5e cables for.. $2

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#342550 17-Jun-2010 09:26

CutCutCut: Where's a good place to get patch cables from? Cables direct have 30cm ones for $1.78 + gst.

I bought those exact ones from Cables Direct. Nice short length makes things tidier.

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#342576 17-Jun-2010 10:18

I was going to pick up one of these described as "HANLONG Economic UTP/STP Cable Stripper & 110 Insertion Tool. Stripper for cable 5 - 6.2mm." This looks like the right tool for me to strip the cat5e wires but it says 5-6.2mm which seems rahter large. Is this the right tool for me?

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#342615 17-Jun-2010 11:28

You dont need a stripper for cat5, never used one on the thousands on joints I have made, just a sharp pen knife and bit of practice. The PVC sheath on cat5 breaks quite easily once the outer surface has been marked with a sharp tool. So with your pen knife scribe the circumference of the cable but not hard enough to go right through, then bend the cable at the scribe point, the sheath will simply pop.

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#343220 19-Jun-2010 11:05

I'll be starting phase 1 this weekend, hopefully get most of the new cable run, and shift the computer into the dinning room and get the modem working in the cupboard.
Thanks for all your help, incredibly useful. I'm sure I'll have more questions soon enough!

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#343563 20-Jun-2010 22:45

Well, didn't get quite as much done as I would have liked but made a good start. Having a 16 month old running around 'helping' didn't speed up the process but good fun. I have all sorts of cuts, bruises and cobwebs up my nose from climbing up in the roofspace but 80% of the cable inside the house is run. Still got a couple of bits to do inside and (one day) I'd like to run cat5e out to the garage (there's already a 2pair phone cable run out there underground) but that's another project for another day. I didn't make a start in putting phone jacks and patch panels in the cupboard but hopefully this week I'll get it done. My wife wasn't overly impressed at the thought of no internet while I sorted the rest out so I had to just tie a couple of cables together and tape 'em up to get broadband back online. To my suprise, after a speedtest

I was getting this, actually, the upload was .80Mb/s but that's since dropped. Now, that's an increase from an average of about 2.5Mb/s. Pretty stoked with that.
During one of my expeditions through the roof, I think I've found the missing telecom cable that enters the house. I'd seen it before previously up in the roof, but thought it was a bit of old black coax, there was some of the old skinny style coax that had been spread around the house at some point in it's history. It's mostly all been pulled out by previous owners but I thought this bit had been left, as it ended up by where an aerial is. While I was pulling new cable up from the kitchen, I found the other end of this black cable as it disappeared right down where I was pulling the cable from. It looks like the old skinnier style coax, RG59 I think. It looks very similar, if not identical, to the 2 pair gel filled black cable that runs out underground into the garage. Anyways, the other end disappears in the corner of the house closest to where the phone cable runs up the driveway. My logic dictates that it must be the phone cable from outside, and somewhere in the wall it is connected to a different cable before it enters the kitchen. By my rough measuring if I cut the cable right where it enters the wall to the kitchen there should be more than enough for it to get to the cupboard and thus my demarc/test jack could serve as my adsl/modem jack and it could branch off from there. I'm guessing that would be a much better solution. I just have to get up my nerve to cut that mystery cable!

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#343948 21-Jun-2010 21:15

Has anybody seen one of these before? It calls itself a central splitter? Is it the same as those other adsl hard wired filters?

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#343952 21-Jun-2010 21:23

They are not NZ market approved but common in Aus, ie I dont think they have a NZ telepermit.

Be aware that the BT3 voice termination used in NZ (both on the exchange card and your phones) is different to Aus and many other countries, this imposes a slightly different performance requirement on DSL filters. In real practice this is trivial, but essentially not all universal filters will meet performance by the NZ standard when terminated on NZ voice line cards.

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#343957 21-Jun-2010 21:35

Interesting. Cyril I'd be interested in your thoughts on my recent post above your last. Would a circa 1979 house have a phone line coming into the house on a black cable? About the thickness of thinner style coax?

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#344023 22-Jun-2010 07:56

Hi, all exteriour leadin cables are black polyethylyene hard jacket cables. These cables for domestic services normally contain 2pairs and is often refered to as Ext2, it is the standard lead in cable, it is around 5.5mm in diameter.

Older versions had yellow/black and tan/white pairs, newer has blue/white and red/black.

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#344040 22-Jun-2010 08:56

cyril7: Hi, all exteriour leadin cables are black polyethylyene hard jacket cables. These cables for domestic services normally contain 2pairs and is often refered to as Ext2, it is the standard lead in cable, it is around 5.5mm in diameter.

Older versions had yellow/black and tan/white pairs, newer has blue/white and red/black.

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Am I right in thinking that if I can get that cable down into the cupboard where the patch panel etc lie then that is the better solution? Am I allowed to cut the cable and run it down into the cupboard and install the test jack there? The test jack would then become my adsl for the modem and I'd run cable from the jack into the patch panel for patching phones.

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