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# 175048 15-Jun-2015 19:05
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I have sort of been left with a half-arsed wiring job here and wondering if I can just set this up myself.

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When I moved in the patch panel (and subsequently none of the data ports were connected). The fibre installed connected up the modem so at least I could have wifi and [above and beyond] jimmied up the phone connection.

Finally got the electrician back to fix it and it appears to me (and from what I have tested) that only one data port has been set up (wired into the patch panel)?






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  # 1325255 15-Jun-2015 19:07
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Yellow cable in the patch panel is currently from the modem and delivering internet to port 1. what exactly does the distribution panel do?




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  # 1325257 15-Jun-2015 19:09
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Yep. All those cables should be terminated on the top module. The bottom module is just for distributing phone wiring. Also, the insulation on the cables should be maintained as close to the IDC as possible to eliminate cross-talk.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1325259 15-Jun-2015 19:11
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well the bottom one is for your phones

top one is for your network cables

http://www.cablesdirect.co.nz/www/pdfs/hpp10081.pdf
pdf on how it works

the RJ45 jacks should be patched to your switch/router, and the 110 connections get punched down to the structured wires which go to the jack points in your walls/rooms



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  # 1325260 15-Jun-2015 19:12
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So there is a bundle of ethernet cables hanging to the right, I assume they are all the cables that still need to be attached into the patch panel?




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  # 1325263 15-Jun-2015 19:14
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Jase2985: well the bottom one is for your phones

top one is for your network cables

http://www.cablesdirect.co.nz/www/pdfs/hpp10081.pdf
pdf on how it works

the RJ45 jacks should be patched to your switch/router, and the 110 connections get punched down to the structured wires which go to the jack points in your walls/rooms


Sweet, that PDF is perfect, explains everything! Thanks.




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  # 1325264 15-Jun-2015 19:15
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possibly but your photo is not the best. are they definatly CAT cables not RG-6 coax cable?

there are also PDF's out there for the telco distribution module

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  # 1325267 15-Jun-2015 19:21
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I hope you didn't actually pay somebody money to install that all incorrectly.. It's an absolute disaster.



 
 
 
 




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  # 1325269 15-Jun-2015 19:22
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Two lots of coax bundles for the sky and freeview distribution, the other lot is certainly a bundle of CAT.

For the distribution, the installer told me I just need to bridge the bottom two wires (blue and white) from the far left port across into the 'line in' port where he has jimmied up the phone connection for me in the mean time (red and green wire).




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  # 1325283 15-Jun-2015 19:26
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sbiddle: I hope you didn't actually pay somebody money to install that all incorrectly.. It's an absolute disaster.




No I didn't, well sort of, its a new house, but they claim that the data ports were higher spec than what should be here so they have done bare minimum to get them working.

I do have my own 8-port giga switch so I should be able to clean it all up myself, but it is a disaster and I wouldn't want my name associated to it if I was a supposed professional electrician like these guys....




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  # 1325287 15-Jun-2015 19:30
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All cat5e cables should be punched down to the RJ45 sockets. There are then 110 to RJ45 cables that clip over the 110 sockets for the phone and can be plugged into the RJ45 sockets for voice.

There should be a law banning electricians from touching data cabling.

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  # 1325290 15-Jun-2015 19:34
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A new house and that's the standard id hate to see the rest of his work...

I though NZ was getting better at weeding out the cowboys. This is also another reason sparkys should have to be re certed every few years so they are up with the changes.



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  # 1325292 15-Jun-2015 19:40
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Anybody in Christchurch want a wiring job for some cash?

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  # 1325295 15-Jun-2015 19:59
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Keep his number handy?

My snarky is going to run network cable during some light upgrade work at my home and the other house. he doesn't do network wiring (dang) but I think the 35m cable i bought from 1 Day has a plug at either end. Can I get a one connector patch panel that I plug the existing ethernet plug into the back, and it leaves a port on the front? 

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  # 1325425 16-Jun-2015 00:04
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How many runs of CAT cable are there/How many ports do you have around your house? 

As already mentioned above, all the CAT cables should be terminated into the patch panel. 

I would give you  a hand but I dont get back into Christchurch until early Sept. 

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  # 1325454 16-Jun-2015 07:40
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When I was installing security systems I would come across these panels and just shudder.
I personally hate them.
I have networked the last two houses I have owned with proper patch panels, not these ridiculous panels.

Yes it's probably overkill, but at least they are terminated correctly and there is enough space to put the modem in and perhaps a NAS as well.

Those panels are ok for phone and antenna connections, but there is no space to actually put anything in them.
Anyone with actual networking knowledge will cringe when they see these.

I would just like to point out, I'm not saying rip it out, I'm saying house builders shouldn't be fitting them and saying the house is networked.
And before anyone point out this isn't helpful, the original poster has solved his dilemma and the rest of this thread is superfluous.

Have a nice day 

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