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Topic # 182468 17-Oct-2015 00:05
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I've been reading through this guide because I'm interested in getting my Airport Extreme Base Station working on UFB when the installer arrives:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8744

However I just want to double check that firstly the information is still relevant for this model: http://www.gowifi.co.nz/switches/mikrotik-rb260gs-5-port-gigabit-managed-switch-sfp-fibre-port.html

I assume that I hook up the cable that comes from the ONT box to the ethernet 1 port then have a cable from the second ethernet port to my Airport router and then on the router I set it up for PPPoE authentication then everything will be cool beans?

Any additional guidance would be much appreciated.




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  Reply # 1408108 17-Oct-2015 06:59
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Yes this all worked as described for me. As I recall the main challenge was logging into the mikrotik but once I had managed that I used the terminal mode and carefully entered the commands. I configured the mikrotik beforehand so was all ready to just plug bits together on the day - I had no changes to make for the for my airport as it was already setup for PPoE authentication.

Has been running without any problems at all for some months now.

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  Reply # 1408253 17-Oct-2015 15:15
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What is the wifi actually like on those Airport Extremes? 





 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 1408267 17-Oct-2015 16:10
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morrisk: Yes this all worked as described for me. As I recall the main challenge was logging into the mikrotik but once I had managed that I used the terminal mode and carefully entered the commands. I configured the mikrotik beforehand so was all ready to just plug bits together on the day - I had no changes to make for the for my airport as it was already setup for PPoE authentication.

Has been running without any problems at all for some months now.


The instructions are pretty good - I've noticed that there is a 750GL version that includes Gigabit Lan which is the one I'll end up going for.

darylblake: What is the wifi actually like on those Airport Extremes? 


Pretty good - and works pretty well when you've got a completely Apple network (iMac, MacBook Pro, Apple TV, iPhone).




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  Reply # 1408277 17-Oct-2015 16:27
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The instructions are pretty good - I've noticed that there is a 750GL version that includes Gigabit Lan which is the one I'll end up going for.


I use a 750GL on Vodafone UFB 100/20.  It handles this speed ok.  I have a few NAT/Mangle/QoS Queues etc and when pushing 100 Mbps through it on a speed test, the 750GL CPU sits just over 60%.
I'm not sure it would handle a 200/200 plan based on those results, so all depends what you intend on ordering.

Vodafone is DHCP on VLAN10 and other ISP's may use PPPoE or DHCP, so that's something you will need to check out before configuring.

Cheers

edit:  all of the above is based on using the Mikrotik as the router.... now i'm not sure if you are looking to do that and just use the Airport for wi-fi, or using the Airport as the router and the Mikrotik just for VLAN translation.



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  Reply # 1408281 17-Oct-2015 16:35
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nbroad:

The instructions are pretty good - I've noticed that there is a 750GL version that includes Gigabit Lan which is the one I'll end up going for.


I use a 750GL on Vodafone UFB 100/20.  It handles this speed ok.  I have a few NAT/Mangle/QoS Queues etc and when pushing 100 Mbps through it on a speed test, the 750GL CPU sits just over 60%.
I'm not sure it would handle a 200/200 plan based on those results, so all depends what you intend on ordering.

Vodafone is DHCP on VLAN10 and other ISP's may use PPPoE or DHCP, so that's something you will need to check out before configuring.

Cheers

edit:  all of the above is based on using the Mikrotik as the router.... now i'm not sure if you are looking to do that and just use the Airport for wi-fi, or using the Airport as the router and the Mikrotik just for VLAN translation.


For me it is a pretty basic configuration of a cable going from the MikroTik to the ONT then another cable going from the MikroTik to the Airport Extreme - so basically it'll be sitting there doing very little in terms of processing. The Airport Extreme will be doing all the DHCP, wifi, PPPoE etc. so there will be next to nothing occurring of any great lifting.

Edit: I've decided to go ahead and bought it from Gowifi so hopefully it'll be there by next week.




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  Reply # 1408530 18-Oct-2015 10:46
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Yeh because my first though was the only reason for using the airport would be for the wifi. The mikrotik would be a sweet to do the routing so you would really be looking for a good access point.

What other mac integrated advantages do you get from an Airport? I got an iphone and a ipad and apple tv and a macbook pro. 







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  Reply # 1408713 18-Oct-2015 17:45
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darylblake: Yeh because my first though was the only reason for using the airport would be for the wifi. The mikrotik would be a sweet to do the routing so you would really be looking for a good access point.

What other mac integrated advantages do you get from an Airport? I got an iphone and a ipad and apple tv and a macbook pro. 


I guess the experience I've had is pretty subjective bought I've found that the reception is pretty good especially on the 5Ghz frequency, I can plug in a 128GB HFS+ drive and things work well, no problems in terms of bonjour detecting all the other stuff I have on the network etc. I guess it is just force of habit using Airport having owned them for many years and the bad experiences I've had with the likes of Belkin, Linksys, Dlink and Netgear in the past.




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  Reply # 1408716 18-Oct-2015 17:48
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Cool. I didn't mean to hi jack your thread. But I am going to get some new wireless options and dual band 5ghz and 802.11ac was what I was interested in. I currently use a mikrotik router board so was just wondering what the AirPort Extreme was like coverage wise.





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  Reply # 1418034 1-Nov-2015 09:08
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260gs is managable switch, not a router

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  Reply # 1418409 1-Nov-2015 23:11
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So this is the model one would need to use with an AirPort Extreme and a UFB connection?

 

 

 

http://www.gowifi.co.nz/ethernet-adsl/mikrotik-routerboard-rb750gl-five-port-gigabit-router.html?keyword=rb750

 

 

 

 

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  Reply # 1418415 1-Nov-2015 23:44
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Hmm I think you might be going around this all wrong.

If you're just VLAN Tagging for UFB all you need is a managed switch like the Mikrotik RB260GS which should do it fine. I really have not used SwitchOS before but the instructions are very straight-forward: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/SwOS




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  Reply # 1418665 2-Nov-2015 11:38
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Ive gone ahead and ordered the RB260GS, Will give it crack to try and configure myself, I understand the basic concepts but expect me to back on here requesting some support! Future thanks.

 

 

 

OP: What did you end up ordering and were you able to configure correctly?

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  Reply # 1418906 2-Nov-2015 15:40
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This gives the info needed to do this.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8744




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  Reply # 1421043 4-Nov-2015 17:46
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Well got UFB installed today which works fine using the ISP supplied modem/router.

Ive spent half the day trying to configure this Mikrotik switch (RB260GS) to use with my AirPort Extreme without any luck..

Could someone confirm I have configured the VLAN tagging correctly? Do I need to configure this anywhere else other than the tab in the screenshot? 

Also im not certain on how to bridge Port 2 to Port 1? I tried deselecting all of the tick boxes except for 'From Port 2' under the Port 1 list. Any help is much appreciated!  

The setup is:                
                             SWITCH
ONT----------------- (PORT1)                                                                        
                             (PORT2) --------------- (WAN) AirPort Extreme                                
                             (PORT3)                                                                            
                             (PORT4)                              
                             (PORT5)

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Tried to follow the steps from sbiddle blog but RouterOS seems to be quite different from swOS.

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  Reply # 1421128 4-Nov-2015 20:18
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Why are you doing a pppoe with the airport and using the mikrotik to inject vlan tags onto the pppoe connection.

I would just follow the guide on here on how to set up a mikrotik to talk to port 1 on the ONT and do the pppoe connection off the mikrotik. Then plug the airport into the mikrotik and use it for wifi. 

EDIT: Added link http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=66&topicid=161676









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