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#245020 14-Jan-2019 16:49
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I'm looking into getting the DYNAMIX 20" Network Enclosure, Recessed Wall Mount for my home but have a few questions on what patch ports are available for this.

 

 

 

The network enclosure is found on the following link: http://www.dynamix.co.nz/HWS-2004V2

 

Searching around the internet, it seems like the default patch port for this is the following: http://www.dynamix.co.nz/HPP-1008-1SL

 

While the above seems to be the default solution for that network box, I don't really like the untidy design with the cables all being exposed on either top and bottom of the module exposing the wires like that and would like something similar to what cabinets have so the cables are neatly tucked away at the back.

 

 

 

I'm not very proficient with how network designs should be done and I have a feeling it might be difficult using the network enclosure given that it's depth is 99mm compared to network cabinets being around double this at 200+mm but would like the clean look of the cabinets while using the space saving of the enclosures.

 

 

 

The patch ports that I have seen are as below:

 

1) http://dynamix.co.nz/PP-MINI12-C6B

 

2) http://dynamix.co.nz/PP-MINI8-UK

 

3) http://www.dynamix.co.nz/PP10-C6-12 

 

 

 

Looking at 1) and 2), I would assume i could maybe align the holes together to mount the patch port but unsure how it can be done.

 

And 3), maybe have a longer screw that goes from the patch port to align with the holes on the network enclosure?

 

 

 

As the cabinet's made out of metal, i'm guessing putting a wireless modem inside here won't be idea either or is it viable to have the wireless modem in here as well?

 

 

 

I was thinking of maybe having the ASUS AC3100U in the cabinet with that connected to the Fibre ONT as this is the best modem / router I have, but if WiFi signals will get impacted by it, i'm wondering if i should just put the Spark HG659B modem in the enclosure and have the ASUS modem as just a wireless bridge on one of the rooms instead.

 

Would I be better off just taking the metal door off and use the network enclosure so the network signals aren't impacted? Will that defeat the purpose of having the network enclosure in the first place by letting dust go into it unnecessarily?

 

Would it be a good idea to place the Fibre ONT inside the network enclosure and will it fit?

 

 

 

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks 


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  #2161079 14-Jan-2019 18:08
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http://www.dynamix.co.nz/HWS-2803WR


Why don’t you use the plastic enclosure if you’re worried about the WiFi?

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  #2162194 16-Jan-2019 18:59
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I was thinking in the small event an electrical fault happens inside, the metal case would be better at withstanding any fires compared to the plastic case,

 

The vents that the metal box has, is that sufficient for WiFi signals to flow through somewhat unheeded or is there a drastic reduction in signal strength when used in it?

 

Either way I'll be receiving the case from a friend who's not using it anymore so i'll most likely be sticking to it but i'm more curious to know if i'll be able to use any other patch panels apart from the default looking ones where they have wires and cables all exposed on the top and bottom.


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  #2162195 16-Jan-2019 19:05
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I know it uses a lot of space but if you get a bigger cabinet (I've done this with 48" cabinets) you could use a standard 19" patch panel mounted vertically with brackets riveted to the back of the enclosure.





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  #2162197 16-Jan-2019 19:08
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Hi, firstly I recommend you go up a size in cabinet, the 28" or ideally bigger would be better suited by the time you get a fibre ONT, router, switching yada yada.

 

As for patch panels, just use these adaptors and then you can use standard 19" 24 port patch panels

 

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  #2162201 16-Jan-2019 19:15
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ihavenfi:

 

I was thinking of maybe having the ASUS AC3100U in the cabinet with that connected to the Fibre ONT as this is the best modem / router I have, but if WiFi signals will get impacted by it, i'm wondering if i should just put the Spark HG659B modem in the enclosure and have the ASUS modem as just a wireless bridge on one of the rooms instead.

 

 

 

 

I'd certainly run the Spark router in the cabinet with the WiFi turned off, then connect the ASUS to the Spark via Cat cable and run the ASUS as a wired access point.


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  #2162203 16-Jan-2019 19:18
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Oh that looks interesting, thanks for the adapter link, will look into those.

 

 

 

As for the 19 inch panels, i'm guessing these ones mounted vertically?

 

http://dynamix.co.nz/PP-C6-16

 

 

 

Would I be able to use this using the adapters you've mentioned?

 

http://dynamix.co.nz/PP-MINI12-C6B

 

 

 

 

 

With the server size patch panels installed, is there much clearance for the door to shut firmly?

 

 

 

I was intending on just inheriting the 20 inch frame instead but you guys think 28 inches or bigger is better i take it?


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  #2162204 16-Jan-2019 19:19
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ihavenfi:

 

The vents that the metal box has, is that sufficient for WiFi signals to flow through somewhat unheeded or is there a drastic reduction in signal strength when used in it?

 

 

Nope.




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  #2162206 16-Jan-2019 19:22
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Hi, a 20" frame is under sized for the job, the patch panel, a switch, ONT and router will struggle to fit. How many circuits are to be terminated. Yes the 19" panels have to go vertically, and as they are on an angle the cables lay flatter, so the door is not so much a problem. If you were using the mini12-C6B (which is a sensible solution if you have 12 or less cirucuits), then you can mount it on the side of the frame so it takes up less space, and cables dress outward, so not fowling the door, and leave more room for routers, switches etc. And dont put any wireless AP in there, these boxes are effective faraday shields.

 

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  #2162260 16-Jan-2019 20:00
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I have an older Dynamix cabinet, which I think is 20 inches (but may even be slightly smaller than that) and used the "Mini 12" patch panel you've linked to, but the cat 5e version of it. The panel is mounted to the side of the cabinet with zip ties through the holes. Originally, I had it mounted on the back, but the door did tend to squish the cables coming out of it.

You can see a picture of my setup in this thread.

As you can see, space is pretty limited and I would go larger if you can, as others have said. I've since installed a 4U rack in the top of one of my cupboards, and am in the process of running more ethernet cables back to that point, following some recent renovation. Eventually I'll move the rest of the connections across, and the old cabinet will just act as housing for the ONT.

The Mini 12 is a good little patch panel, if you're only putting in a small number of cables.

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  #2162299 16-Jan-2019 20:58
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Wow thanks for the link froob, that looks quite neat and looks like what I would want to be doing with the Mini 12 patch panel.

 

 

 

I wasn't quite getting what cyril7 was meaning when he said mount on the side of the frame but looking at your photo makes sense now.

 

 

 

I reckon those mounts looks much neater compared to the "original" ones with the cables all exposed so will definitely look into that.

 

 

 

Quite techsupportmcguyver-ish using the zip ties to hold them onto place but if it works it works.

 

 

 

As dunnersfella and others have said, I think i might just use the Spark modem inside the enclosure and use the AC3100u as a wireless point. (or maybe might switch them around as needed as I initially got the AC3100u for its VPN capabilities and stronger processing power).


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  #2162794 17-Jan-2019 21:46
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ihavenfi: ...

As dunnersfella and others have said, I think i might just use the Spark modem inside the enclosure and use the AC3100u as a wireless point. (or maybe might switch them around as needed as I initially got the AC3100u for its VPN capabilities and stronger processing power).



It might be possible to use the AC3100u as both the router and access point, if you have two network outlets next to where you want to put it. You would then:
- run one outlet from the fibre ONT to the WAN port of the AC3100u and
- run the other outlet back from a LAN port of the AC3100u to the cabinet.

The feed back to the cabinet can be hooked up to a switch in the cabinet, and fed out to the other ports around the house. You could even use the Spark modem just as a switch for that purpose, but it would be more straightforward to have a dedicated switch.

Hopefully that makes sense.

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