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#272973 28-Jul-2020 13:25
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Hi Team, 

 

 

 

Im a noob, and need your help.

 

 

 

I have Vodafone fibre and a Chorus ONT. I also have a ubiquiti router and WAP installed alongside a Netgear Prosafe switch. 

 

 

 

I have also got Vodafone TV and it has to run on their modem (else it keeps dropping connection after 18 months of testing different setups).

 

 

 

Question is, how can I configure the ONT and routers to let me run the two routers? It doesnt look like the second port on the ONT is live, and by connecting both routers to the switch, it works, but the wireless is really slow in use though tests have the vodafone unit at 30mbps and the Ubiquiti WAP at 85mbps. Wondering if there is a best practice way of doing this.

 

 

 

Cheers geeks. 

 

 

 

Andrew  


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  #2530070 28-Jul-2020 13:29
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The simple answer is no, you can't run 2 routers off the ONT.

 

There is a working Edgerouter configuration if you're using one of those - I can confirm this works reliably: https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=181158

 

Instead, just look at upgrading your Vodafone TV box to the newer Vodafone TV that you can buy from the likes of Noel Leeming. It is far better in almost every aspect.







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  #2530082 28-Jul-2020 13:41
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michaelmurfy:

 

The simple answer is no, you can't run 2 routers off the ONT.

 

There is a working Edgerouter configuration if you're using one of those - I can confirm this works reliably: https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=181158

 

Instead, just look at upgrading your Vodafone TV box to the newer Vodafone TV that you can buy from the likes of Noel Leeming. It is far better in almost every aspect.

 

 

 

 

Hmmm ok, I do have 2 running now through the switch, its just slow on the ubiquiti side in practical terms so I thought there must be a preferred way to do it that I wasnt doing.

 

 

 

I have the new Vodafone Gen 2 unit as well, it also keeps dropping connection even though nothing else in the house does and it does that on the ubiquiti WAP setup and a gaming Asus router I also tried. 

 

 

 

So far the only reliable way is the crappy Gen 1 vodafone unit with their router (its been working for 3 days and hasnt fallen over yet which is a record).  

 

 

 

I have both routers connected to the switch, so I guess thats as good as its going to work?  


 
 
 
 




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  #2530161 28-Jul-2020 15:16
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michaelmurfy:

 

The simple answer is no, you can't run 2 routers off the ONT.

 

There is a working Edgerouter configuration if you're using one of those - I can confirm this works reliably: https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=181158

 

Instead, just look at upgrading your Vodafone TV box to the newer Vodafone TV that you can buy from the likes of Noel Leeming. It is far better in almost every aspect.

 

 

 

 

Oh I just read your thread link! 

 

 

 

Thats interesting to know, I do have the Ubiquiti Edgerouter and WAP units. 

 

 

 

Where about's do you undertake that posted config to get it working? Is it in the Ubiquiti software only or does it need to be in the network settings in the Vodafone box?

 

 

 

Andrew


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  #2530209 28-Jul-2020 15:58
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so you have a switch plugged into the ONT and two routers plugged into it? and getting two WAN IP Addresses? 

 

I don't think Vodafone would like hear that




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  #2530219 28-Jul-2020 16:02
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nztim:

 

so you have a switch plugged into the ONT and two routers plugged into it? and getting two WAN IP Addresses? 

 

I don't think Vodafone would like hear that

 

 

 

 

No, currently the ONT is plugged into the Vodafone router and both routers are plugged into the switch. 

 

 

 

I dont really care about Vodafone's feelings, I'm 18 months and $5k deep trying to solve connection issues with their equipment. 


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  #2530224 28-Jul-2020 16:10
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Have you turned off DHCP on the second router.... 

 

Your terminology is confusing....

 

"the ONT is plugged in to the VF router" - yes

 

"the Two routers are plugged into the switch" ? - what is the switch plugged into? - what are the two routers?  does that make 3 including the VF router??

 

 




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  #2530231 28-Jul-2020 16:24
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wellygary:

 

Have you turned off DHCP on the second router.... 

 

Your terminology is confusing....

 

"the ONT is plugged in to the VF router" - yes

 

"the Two routers are plugged into the switch" ? - what is the switch plugged into? - what are the two routers?  does that make 3 including the VF router??

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi, no I havent turned DHCP off, Ive just plugged them in and not adjusted settings. 

 

 

 

ONT into WAN port on VF Router. 

 

VF Router plugged into Netgear Switch

 

Ubiquiti Router Plugged into Netgear Switch

 

WAP plugged into Netgear Switch

 

 

 

2 Routers. 


 
 
 
 


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  #2530253 28-Jul-2020 16:42
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it sounds like you dont know what you are doing and should engage someone who does




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  #2530310 28-Jul-2020 17:27
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Jase2985:

it sounds like you dont know what you are doing and should engage someone who does



Hi Jase,

Do you have a view on how it can be configured?

Cheers

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  #2530315 28-Jul-2020 18:07
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I agree with Jase - you're really out of your depth here, and would need to brush up on basic network concepts before you start trying to implement what you're trying. If you know anyone local who might be able to come and lend a hand I'd suggest that, or if you let us know where you are roughly, you might be nearby enough to ply one of us with some beer to come and have a quick squizz.





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  #2530316 28-Jul-2020 18:10
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ajc153:
Jase2985:

 

it sounds like you dont know what you are doing and should engage someone who does

 



Hi Jase,

Do you have a view on how it can be configured?

Cheers

 

trying to do it over the internet or on the phone doesnt look like its going to work in your situation, as mentioned above try and find someone local to help you. will likely get it sorted quickly.


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  #2530317 28-Jul-2020 18:11
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ajc153:

 

I dont really care about Vodafone's feelings, I'm 18 months and $5k deep trying to solve connection issues with their equipment. 

 

 

how are you 5k deep in fixing this?

 

$150 and a geek on wheels would have likely fixed it.

 

or ask for someone local on here and it likely will cost you a lot less




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  #2530319 28-Jul-2020 18:21
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Jase2985:

ajc153:


I dont really care about Vodafone's feelings, I'm 18 months and $5k deep trying to solve connection issues with their equipment. 



how are you 5k deep in fixing this?


$150 and a geek on wheels would have likely fixed it.


or ask for someone local on here and it likely will cost you a lot less



By trying different configurations at vodafones request, different routers, gen2 box and subscription along with gen 4, hdmi management devices, routing new hdmi cables and cat6 to hdmi converters. Installed by tech experts over the last 18 months to solve a lost connection issue.

Since you don't know the issue or even have any idea how to solve it, but can some how price it, maybe a forum isn't the place for you to try help people.

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  #2530320 28-Jul-2020 18:22
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im sorry for your situation but surely you would have got the idea a lot sooner that the help you were getting wasnt working.

 

 




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  #2530321 28-Jul-2020 18:26
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toejam316:

I agree with Jase - you're really out of your depth here, and would need to brush up on basic network concepts before you start trying to implement what you're trying. If you know anyone local who might be able to come and lend a hand I'd suggest that, or if you let us know where you are roughly, you might be nearby enough to ply one of us with some beer to come and have a quick squizz.



It's not complex, really, it's just how to have one router manage the VTV over ethernet and another running the WAPs.

Currently the ubiquiti waps are plugged into the switch which is currently supplied connection from the Vodafone modem which is rubbish and the connection is slower than with the Ubiquiti router.

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