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aetherius

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#275852 13-Sep-2020 21:22
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Hello everyone!

 

My family recently moved in a brand new home.

 

We are setting up our Internet/Wifi and noticed that only 1 Ethernet/Network port in our home is working even though our house has other ports.

 

Basically, except for the one in our living room, all other ports in other rooms are just useless holes.

 

My goal is to turn those useless holes into active holes 😅.

 

So our home network looks like this: (Hopefully these image links are working - very sorry if they're not)

 

Home Network

 

So this network exists in a compartment in our garage and holds the ONT Box, a panel of Ethernet Ports that I guess wires to specific ports throughout our home and a VDSL Splitter (which I have no idea what is for).

 

So, our ONT Box has a ethernet cable (white cable) on LAN 1 which connects to a port on the Ethernet Panel which corresponds to the one in our living room.

 

I don't know much about ONT Boxes but after surfing the Chorus website about it; looks like our ISP provider is permanently on LAN 1.

 

I experimented at first by simply wiring an extra ethernet cable on the ONT's LAN 2 into the other ports on the Ethernet Panel to see if it that works but it never seems to connect it to the Internet at all.

 

I also tried using the white cable itself and simply connecting it to LAN 2 out of LAN 1, also didn't work - zero internet.

 

So, I figured that only the LAN 1 port of the ONT Box will give access to the internet, therefore to make the ethernet ports in other parts of our home useful, I will have to get an ethernet splitter or something that'll connect to the LAN 1 port of the ONT Box but allows multiple Ethernet Cables to attach to it then connect them to the ports on the Ethernet Panel.

 

Is this a good idea? I'm very hesitant in messing with our ONT Box, since this is a new house and I'm worried I might cause irreparable damage.

 

I would also like to know if by using a splitter/extender(?) on LAN 1, and having multiple ethernet cables attached to it - will this affect our internet/fibre connection?

 

Will it cause the following things?

 

  • Make our internet slower?
  • Put unnecessary stress on our Fibre Connection?
  • Put stress on the box itself?
  • Cause an electrical fire so fierce that it will blow up our new abode???

Please let me know if:

 

  • the in-built VDL Splitter will solve my problem? (What the heck is it?)
  • am I complicating things?

I'm open to suggestions/ideas/comments/thoughts and prayers.

 

Thanks in advance 🙂!

 

 


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aetherius

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  #2563357 13-Sep-2020 21:26
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OH that sucks, my image links were working on the preview please see below for the direct links:

 

  • Home Network - https://i.ibb.co/V9VMpj5/Home-Network.jpg
  • ONT Box - https://i.ibb.co/9Wv7Y8F/Home-ONT-Box.jpg
  • Ethernet Panel - https://i.ibb.co/YW6yP27/Home-Ethernet-Panel.jpg

 


Tzoi
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  #2563359 13-Sep-2020 21:34
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What you need to do is put your router in that cabinet, and connect the other connections on it to the ethernet ports in the cabinet


 
 
 
 


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  #2563360 13-Sep-2020 21:36
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What plugs into the ethernet jack in your living room? Do you connect a wifi AP or something to that, or like a modem from your ISP?

 

Looks like it should be a super easy fix, just get a switch:
1. Cable from ONT into Switch
2. Cable from switch into one port on the patch panel above which has those labeled cables for each room in the house. 
3. Repeat step 2 until each port is connected to the switch

 

After above all ports will share the same internet connection, assuming that ONT acts as your modem which it looks like it does. 

 

If you have a modem connected to your living room, instead do the above:
1. Cable from ONT to your modem (move modem into the box in garage unless you have 2 ports next to each other in the living room)
2. Cable from modem into Switch
3. Cable from Switch into each port on patch panel 
4. Repeat step 3 until each port is connected to switch. 

 

 


aetherius

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  #2563368 13-Sep-2020 22:01
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Thank you so much for the fast replies!

 

I wanted to just put my wifi router into the compartment and use it to extend all internet connections to the other ports on the ethernet panel but sadly there is no space to add new things into it.

 

Looks like buying a ethernet switch is the simple answer to my issue 😄!

 

Thanks again for confirming.

 

 


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  #2563377 13-Sep-2020 23:05
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aetherius:

 

Thank you so much for the fast replies!

 

I wanted to just put my wifi router into the compartment and use it to extend all internet connections to the other ports on the ethernet panel but sadly there is no space to add new things into it.

 

Looks like buying a ethernet switch is the simple answer to my issue 😄!

 

Thanks again for confirming.

 

 

No it isn't.  Because the equipment has to be in the order ONT - Router - (switch if more LAN ports than on the router are needed) - ethernet cable - devices

 

If you can't fit the router in the cabinet, and there is only one cable run from there to where you put the router, the wiring is kind of useless


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  #2563378 13-Sep-2020 23:07
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You could fit a router and a switch to the left of the ONT in your cabinet.


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  #2563387 14-Sep-2020 05:26
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tardtasticx:

 

What plugs into the ethernet jack in your living room? Do you connect a wifi AP or something to that, or like a modem from your ISP?

 

Looks like it should be a super easy fix, just get a switch:
1. Cable from ONT into Switch
2. Cable from switch into one port on the patch panel above which has those labeled cables for each room in the house. 
3. Repeat step 2 until each port is connected to the switch

 

After above all ports will share the same internet connection, assuming that ONT acts as your modem which it looks like it does. 

 

 

This is incorrect

 

it doesn't act as the router. you need to go ONT > Router > Patch panel


 
 
 
 


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  #2563393 14-Sep-2020 07:04
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Is there an echo in here?


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  #2563394 14-Sep-2020 07:13
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Hi, problem with putting your regular all in one ISP supplied router in the cabinet is that the wifi is out in the garage and in a steel box, not so clever.


So the solution is to put the router in the lounge and feed a port of the routers lan back to the garage and use a small switch to on feed it to other outlets in the house.


So in the lounge, is there one or two ethernet ports, if just the one, what fibre plan are you on, 950/500 or 100/20, if the latter then you can use a simple splitter to split the cable feed and have both the WAN from the ONT and the LAN from the router on the same cable, if you are on a 950/500 plan then you can achieve most of the desired speed with a pair of $46 manged switches.


Cyril


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  #2563399 14-Sep-2020 07:41
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Jase2985:

tardtasticx:


What plugs into the ethernet jack in your living room? Do you connect a wifi AP or something to that, or like a modem from your ISP?


Looks like it should be a super easy fix, just get a switch:
1. Cable from ONT into Switch
2. Cable from switch into one port on the patch panel above which has those labeled cables for each room in the house. 
3. Repeat step 2 until each port is connected to the switch


After above all ports will share the same internet connection, assuming that ONT acts as your modem which it looks like it does. 



This is incorrect


it doesn't act as the router. you need to go ONT > Router > Patch panel



Clever but try again without clipping the alternative answer that covers the situation of them having a modem/router.

Yours also wouldn’t work. ONT > Router > Patch Panel >
So whatever is on the other end of that port on the patch panel will have a working connection but what about the rest of the ports that OP wants to liven up?

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  #2563406 14-Sep-2020 08:07
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tardtasticx:

 

What plugs into the ethernet jack in your living room? Do you connect a wifi AP or something to that, or like a modem from your ISP?

 

Looks like it should be a super easy fix, just get a switch:
1. Cable from ONT into Switch
2. Cable from switch into one port on the patch panel above which has those labeled cables for each room in the house. 
3. Repeat step 2 until each port is connected to the switch

 

After above all ports will share the same internet connection, assuming that ONT acts as your modem which it looks like it does. 

 

 

I get what you're saying but you're using the wrong terminology. 

 

You don't need to assume the ONT is a modem -- it is a modem. 

 

The ONT (modem) , must  be plugged directly into the router, never into a switch. A router is not  a modem.  I think you meant to say router, not modem.


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  #2563407 14-Sep-2020 08:16
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cyril7:

Hi, problem with putting your regular all in one ISP supplied router in the cabinet is that the wifi is out in the garage and in a steel box, not so clever.


So the solution is to put the router in the lounge and feed a port of the routers lan back to the garage and use a small switch to on feed it to other outlets in the house.


So in the lounge, is there one or two ethernet ports, if just the one, what fibre plan are you on, 950/500 or 100/20, if the latter then you can use a simple splitter to split the cable feed and have both the WAN from the ONT and the LAN from the router on the same cable, if you are on a 950/500 plan then you can achieve most of the desired speed with a pair of $46 manged switches.


Cyril


Many ways of skinning the proverbial, I had assumed there wasn’t a double Ethernet run to the lounge. In this case, arguably it’s neater to leave the router in the cabinet and connect a wifi access point where ever is best via the installed wiring. This also makes more sense if you need to connect telephone wiring from router to the phone panel

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  #2563411 14-Sep-2020 08:35
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Hi Simon, agreed, just put the router in the cabinet, turn its wifi off as its probably rubbish anyway and put a couple of UniFi WAPs out in strategic areas where an ethernet port is.

 

Cyril


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  #2563648 14-Sep-2020 12:10
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Hello again everyone, thank you for the overnight replies.

 

Sorry, not a very tech savy person - but my plan now is to get a switch that'll connect to the LAN 1 of the ONT Box which would allow more Ethernet cables to connect the other ports throughout our home.

 

Am I not able to do this because switches don't work with the ONT Box? (A switch like this: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHTPL1007/TP-Link-TL-SG1005D-5-Port-Gigabit-Unmanaged-Switch)

 

My plan is to basically use something that'll connect to the LAN 1 port of the ONT Box which would let me connect multiple ethernet cables into it and then wire them in to the ports on the Ethernet Panel.

 

Something like this (Hope this helps illustrate it):

 

                                                        /--[Ethernet Cable]->[Lounge Port on Ethernet Panel]

 

[ONT BOX LAN 1] -> [Splitter/Switch] ~--[Ethernet Cable]->[Dining Room Port on Ethernet Panel]

 

                                                       \--[Ethernet Cable]->[Master Bedroom Port on Ethernet Panel]

 

(I probably have no idea how switches work in the first place, my bad.)

 

Our ISP is Vodafone: not sure what our Fibre speed is exactly but we are on the Unlimited Fibre Broadband plan.

 

Thanks everyone!

 

 


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  #2563652 14-Sep-2020 12:17
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aetherius:

 

Hello again everyone, thank you for the overnight replies.

 

Sorry, not a very tech savy person - but my plan now is to get a switch that'll connect to the LAN 1 of the ONT Box which would allow more Ethernet cables to connect the other ports throughout our home.

 

Am I not able to do this because switches don't work with the ONT Box? (A switch like this: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHTPL1007/TP-Link-TL-SG1005D-5-Port-Gigabit-Unmanaged-Switch)

 

My plan is to basically use something that'll connect to the LAN 1 port of the ONT Box which would let me connect multiple ethernet cables into it and then wire them in to the ports on the Ethernet Panel.

 

Something like this (Hope this helps illustrate it):

 

                                                        /--[Ethernet Cable]->[Lounge Port on Ethernet Panel]

 

[ONT BOX LAN 1] -> [Splitter/Switch] ~--[Ethernet Cable]->[Dining Room Port on Ethernet Panel]

 

                                                       \--[Ethernet Cable]->[Master Bedroom Port on Ethernet Panel]

 

(I probably have no idea how switches work in the first place, my bad.)

 

Our ISP is Vodafone: not sure what our Fibre speed is exactly but we are on the Unlimited Fibre Broadband plan.

 

Thanks everyone!

 

 

This will NOT work

 

The ONT LAN1 needs to connect to your router

 

as @cyril7 stated

 

[ONT BOX LAN 1] -->> [Router with wifi disabled] -> ports on wall to Ethernet cables and have access points in the rooms (e.g. unifi)

 

 


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