Vehicle Radar detectors

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#3226249 3-May-2024 21:30

muppet: I drive 20-30km/h under the speed limit everywhere I go. I find this stops me getting tickets and I make a lot of "Road Friends" because many people beep, flash their lights and wave/give hand signals to me.

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Thanks for this, I need a way to make friends here.

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#3226280 4-May-2024 07:35

So you want a unit that only reads Ka band, relies on GPS updates for fixed cameras, detects lasers, and keeps quiet if you are under the speed limit regardless. Is that correct and which one does?

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#3226285 4-May-2024 08:05

Unfortunately you need K band, as that's what the mobile cameras are on. We use to be lucky in NZ for a while with only KA band, but then came Redflex :(
I use the R7, you can get up to 500m speed cam detection if you mount the detector vertically. There is a NZ guy on rdforum.org who writes a custom firmware for the international R7.

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#3226293 4-May-2024 09:05

Ruphus:
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An ex Valentine user (died on me after 10+ years) myself - forum mentioned above is great along with Vortex Radar - YouTube who is also active there.
Conversion process is interesting....documented anywhere?

There's release notes listed on the RDForum for the latest conversion update for the R7. To get the firmware, you'll need to reach out to Mithheru on RDForum via PM.

He does great work internationally. Does ask for $100 for firmware though.

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#3226352 4-May-2024 10:33

johno1234: So you want a unit that only reads Ka band, relies on GPS updates for fixed cameras, detects lasers, and keeps quiet if you are under the speed limit regardless. Is that correct and which one does?

My R3 basically achieves all that and I guess also the R7 and I think the DFR7NZ would too. No doubt other brands have similar functions.

It detects K band but has a "Quiet Ride" function where you can specify above which speed you want a particular band to provide audible alerts. Since it's in suburban areas where the vast majority of false K band alerts occur I have mine set up not to alert for K band until above something like 90 km/hr.

Regular database updates are available for fixed camera locations plus you can add User Marks for locations you want an alert.

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#3226480 4-May-2024 14:28

coffeebaron: Unfortunately you need K band, as that's what the mobile cameras are on. We use to be lucky in NZ for a while with only KA band, but then came Redflex :(
I use the R7, you can get up to 500m speed cam detection if you mount the detector vertically. There is a NZ guy on rdforum.org who writes a custom firmware for the international R7.

This can depend on a couple factors. Specifically how the mobile camera van is setup, if they are pointing across the road (on a motorway per say) the radar wont pick it up until it's practically next to it, long after it would've caught you. This is the case with even newer hardware (My Uniden R7NZ for example) I would recommend rolling without the K band to stop the annoyances of false positives (shop doors, car lane sensors, speed detection signage, truck hardware etc) and just keep an eye out.

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#3226484 4-May-2024 14:47

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This can depend on a couple factors. Specifically how the mobile camera van is setup, if they are pointing across the road (on a motorway per say) the radar wont pick it up until it's practically next to it, long after it would've caught you. This is the case with even newer hardware (My Uniden R7NZ for example) I would recommend rolling without the K band to stop the annoyances of false positives (shop doors, car lane sensors, speed detection signage, truck hardware etc) and just keep an eye out.

I find Quiet Ride works well to stop false positive with X and K bands. I don't get troubled by car lane sensors and the like.

I agree with your comment about how the camera is set up affects the ability to detect it. For me the cameras are generally not an issue as I cruise at speeds where I'm not going to trigger the cameras, lasers or radars.

99.9% of the time my radar detector is not needed. I just like the ability to get past slow traffic as safely as possible, spending the least amount of time on the wrong side of the road, without getting a speeding ticket.

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#3226801 6-May-2024 08:37

Why doesn't someone make a plain black box radar detector that uses an Carplay/AndroidAuto app as its user interface?

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#3226803 6-May-2024 08:41

johno1234:

Why doesn't someone make a plain black box radar detector that uses an Carplay/AndroidAuto app as its user interface?

You can kinda do this with the Valentines. They have an app which can connected to it and display more information. I believe this is also the case for some other radars.

https://www.valentine1.com/v1-detectors/v1-radar-detector-apps/

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#3226896 6-May-2024 10:10

johno1234:

Why doesn't someone make a plain black box radar detector that uses an Carplay/AndroidAuto app as its user interface?

Why?

They're a stand alone unit, once you've set them up it's pretty well set and forget, with no need for an interface like AA or CP.

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#3226909 6-May-2024 10:59

Technofreak:

johno1234:

Why doesn't someone make a plain black box radar detector that uses an Carplay/AndroidAuto app as its user interface?

Why?

They're a stand alone unit, once you've set them up it's pretty well set and forget, with no need for an interface like AA or CP.

the user interface on most units is small, inflexible and physically shaped to face the driver in a left hand drive and has very limited controls due to its size. If using the vehicle's display, the radar detector can be a unobtrusive and have no display elements, LEDs, buttons or dials, and use the vehicle touch screen instead. Visual announcements can be displayed, controlled and customised more flexibly and setting the unit on/off, changing from highway to suburban modes etc more easily than fiddling with a tiny unit.

In fact the unit could be positioned behind the rear view mirror so it can't even be seen.

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#3226911 6-May-2024 11:08

johno1234:

the user interface on most units is small, inflexible and physically shaped to face the driver in a left hand drive and has very limited controls due to its size. If using the vehicle's display, the radar detector can be a unobtrusive and have no display elements, LEDs, buttons or dials, and use the vehicle touch screen instead. Visual announcements can be displayed, controlled and customised more flexibly and setting the unit on/off, changing from highway to suburban modes etc more easily than fiddling with a tiny unit.

In fact the unit could be positioned behind the rear view mirror so it can't even be seen.

I have all that on my Valentine. Years ago I bought a concealed display with controls for it that plugs into the cigarette lighter and can be pointed anywhere.

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#3226964 6-May-2024 13:54

johno1234:

the user interface on most units is small, inflexible and physically shaped to face the driver in a left hand drive and has very limited controls due to its size. If using the vehicle's display, the radar detector can be a unobtrusive and have no display elements, LEDs, buttons or dials, and use the vehicle touch screen instead. Visual announcements can be displayed, controlled and customised more flexibly and setting the unit on/off, changing from highway to suburban modes etc more easily than fiddling with a tiny unit.

In fact the unit could be positioned behind the rear view mirror so it can't even be seen.

I don't know about other users but I have no need to touch or fiddle with the radar detector on a day to day basis. The only time I touch it is to move it between cars or update the camera database. One one of my cars it fits up behind the mirror out of sight.

I have no need for a user interface on a day to day basis and see no need for the cost and complexity to have the detector integrate with AA or CP.

In fact I would see that as a backward step functionality wise as it would be competing with other apps, e.g. Maps, and you would need to switch between apps to access functions, though what functions you might need access to I really don't know. The only function I can ever remember using on the fly is the "Marker" (and then probably only ever used it once or twice) and unless you had the detector app as the active app by the time you accessed it you would no longer be at the location where the "Marker" function was needed.

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#3226967 6-May-2024 14:01

Technofreak:

In fact I would see that as a backward step functionality wise as it would be competing with other apps, e.g. Maps, and you would need to switch between apps to access functions, though what functions you might need access to I really don't know. The only function I can ever remember using on the fly is the "Marker" (and then probably only ever used it once or twice) and unless you had the detector app as the active app by the time you accessed it you would no longer be at the location where the "Marker" function was needed.

I find that with waze. Not really wanting to mess with the phone to report a cop. Wonder if there is a bluetooth button that lets you report things in it even if the app is not showing?

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#3226968 6-May-2024 14:03

richms:

I find that with waze. Not really wanting to mess with the phone to report a cop. Wonder if there is a bluetooth button that lets you report things in it even if the app is not showing?

Could be a cool project. A little Bluetooth device which interacts with Waze.

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