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#267960 19-Feb-2020 17:50
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Just upgraded to this machine - it was on special at the Warehouse.  Have an older Toshiba in my bedroom which works great, so stuck with a brand I know.  And this was affordable to my budget.

 

This is definitely better than the previous tv. 

 

Just having issues with pairing the remote control over bluetooth for the voice commands.  Press the voice button and it searches, and can't find the remote.  I can bluetooth my phone to it, so I know the bluetooth is working on the TV.  

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue, or know how to solve it?

 

Be nice to try out this feature.  

 

 

 

 





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  #2424172 19-Feb-2020 18:00
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omg i am a dumb dumb, the instructions for pairing were on another page in the manual...

 

 

 

I can now speak to my TV lol





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  #2425094 21-Feb-2020 17:14
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Hi there,

 

I saw these on special too. (in particular the 50U7880AZ for $589 or something).  Tempted to replace our Veon 4K 50" TV which has nothing wrong with it except the refresh rate absolutely sucks so any scene with a decent amount of panning just looks like garbage.  Do you happen to know what the refresh rate is?


 
 
 
 




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  #2425107 21-Feb-2020 17:53
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I have no idea the refresh rate, I can't seem to find it in the manual or via google or in the tv menus.

 

 

 

But this was definitely an upgrade from my old plasma. I'm loving my new tv.

 

 

 

I got bundle deal at the warehouse and got a Veon soundbar, which I use on my older Toshiba in my bedroom - as the sound when on low sounds a bit funny - enjoying listing to tv in bed with no hissing type sounds on low volume and my tv no longer makes vibratey noises with bass when loud.





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  #2425159 21-Feb-2020 19:53
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Hmmm. cool, thanks for sharing. I cant find diddly squat online about this TV. I may try and find one at a Warehouse locally if they have one on demo and try to put it through its paces. What do sports, for example, look like? do you notice any motion blur in fast moving scenes?


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  #2425183 21-Feb-2020 21:41
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"Toshiba" TVs are no more. The Toshiba television brand is owned by the Chinese government. A "Toshiba" TV is very likely a rebadged Hisense. What year was the plasma from?

 

If you must buy a Chinese TV the best is likely to be "Philips" (TP Vision).

 

Generally most people will want a soundbar with a subwoofer which is something missing in some of the cheapest units. Panasonics look like best value for money among cheap 2.1 soundbar systems, in New Zealand at least.




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  #2425340 22-Feb-2020 12:17
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My plasma was a Panasonic and an older one.  But my current LCD is a Toshiba well over 7 years old.

 

 

 

Sorry, I do not watch sports on my telly - only streaming content (which is not sport).  I've not even got it hooked up to the aerial yet for freeview - as I need to wire it from the other side of the lounge and we don't really watch Freeview as most stuff is on demand.

 

 

 

As for the Warehouse Toshiba, I think it is 60hz - thats the only number I can see in relation to the HDMI2 ports.

 

 

 

All in all, this is better quality that any of the tvs in my house and I am loving it as my first entry-level 4k smart tv.





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  #2425771 23-Feb-2020 09:54
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I might have to rethink if this tv is better.  I am noticing - watching shows are very blue-tinted - I have changed Temperature from Cool to Warm - but watched my first 4k last night through Google Play - Dr Sleep - and we thought there was a blueish filter effect in the film.  But certain scenes became unwatchable.

 

We tried through TV's Chromecast, My normal Chromecast and the Google Play Movies app (which had the video jittering, so we went back to my Chromecast.

 

I changed some settings to test - but there was no change - and now have reset back to default - only changing temp back to warm.  We are on fibre internet - my internet stats in sig are from years ago.  I am wondering if wiring ethernet cable in would give better quality - even though my asus modem is about a metre from the tv

 

 

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http://pulseweb.net.nz/images/video.mp4





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  #2425775 23-Feb-2020 10:07
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http://pulseweb.net.nz/images/video2.mp4

 

This through google play app - even black hair/beards have a blue tint (please also note, video played smoothly when watching it, recorded with my s9 plus and it looks not smooth - but the colour is basically what I see)





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  #2425776 23-Feb-2020 10:12
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Those videos are so bad that they are painful to watch, but its clear there is something screwed up with the black levels.

 

Check if you have a HDMI level adjustment between full and limited range somewhere, I have seen similar but it was more of a purple colour when that was set wrong with video playback, it however wasonly over the HDMI input. Inbuild apps were fine. I think those toshibas are doing their android the cheap way where its a separate dongle into an HDMI input you cant select as HDMI, so the HDMI options may affect that too





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  #2425827 23-Feb-2020 10:49
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richms:

 

Those videos are so bad that they are painful to watch, but its clear there is something screwed up with the black levels.

 

Check if you have a HDMI level adjustment between full and limited range somewhere, I have seen similar but it was more of a purple colour when that was set wrong with video playback, it, however, wasonly over the HDMI input. Inbuild apps were fine. I think those toshibas are doing their android the cheap way where its a separate dongle into an HDMI input you cant select as HDMI, so the HDMI options may affect that too

 

 

 

 

Yes, it is bad.  There are two HDMI 2.0 settings 4k@60hz 4:2:0 and 4k@60hz 4:4:4/4:2.2  in the book - mine was set on the later, I changed to the first one and didn't notice a difference 

 

The inbuilt app Google Play movie 4k Dr Sleep shows blacks as blue, like even Cliff Curtis's eyes, being dark show a blue hue.  His hair and beard have a bit of blue hue - and even Ewan's hair in the scene I showed in video - the darker brown parts of his hair have a blue hue.  There is also a little girl with dark hair, dark eyes and skin - and her eyes were showing a blue (which again we thought was an effect based on the story line of the movie - as there seems to be a lot of blue in this movie (costumes blue) so we actually thought it was a theme at first, as it is a Stephen King move lol

 

It's funny as the movie Jojo rabbit the night before the colours were fine (although that was rented as HD, not4K) - and there were no complaints.  So maybe the 4k is not good on this machine and I just rent movies from the Google Play Movies and TV as HD only?





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  #2425830 23-Feb-2020 10:59
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ohhh i think i found some settings to tweak and it looks better.

 

Followed this guide https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/05/best-tv-settings/

 

I turned off Flesh and Super Resolution - already had it on Cinema and Warm Temp.

 

Looks less Blue now.





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  #2426115 23-Feb-2020 23:47
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Some budget TVs have problems with undefeatable blue push as their LED backlights are too blue as a balanced colour spectrum on LEDs costs more. It can be seen on some Veons too but not all.

 

Erratic behaviour between different applications and inputs can reflect the cobbed together way electronics in TVs can work. It may look seemless but isn't behind the scenes.

 

To a degree this can happen with better brands too. Early Sony HDMI inputs internally converted HDMI to VGA then back to digital again. 


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  #2428524 27-Feb-2020 22:29
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Yeah guess the moral of this story is to not buy junky TVs or anything else from the Warehouse unless you can absolutely not avoid it!


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  #2428547 28-Feb-2020 02:16
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kiwipearls:

ohhh i think i found some settings to tweak and it looks better.

 

Followed this guide https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/05/best-tv-settings/

 

I turned off Flesh and Super Resolution - already had it on Cinema and Warm Temp.

 

Looks less Blue now.

 

 

I thought I had the opposite problem, skin tones were bright orange, it looked ghastly. Then the Trump clip ended and everything went back to normal again.

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  #2428548 28-Feb-2020 02:17
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Boxdog:

Yeah guess the moral of this story is to not buy junky TVs or anything else from the Warehouse unless you can absolutely not avoid it!

 

ITYM:

 

Yeah guess the moral of this story is to not buy anything from the Warehouse unless you can absolutely not avoid it!

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