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Master Geek

#91691 19-Oct-2007 12:40

You've got three options at the moment:

TurboSIM: safest in terms of bricking your phone. I doesn't modify any GSM related firmware on the iPhone. It's the most expensive method, requires hardware, and physical modification of the sim card. Not a good option if you're into swapping sim cards frequently. Should be relatively tolerant of firmware updates.

IPSF: second least impact in terms of modifying GSM related firmware on the iPhone, which means it's likely to survive updates. Developed by a company with experience in phone unlocking. Support for updates where possible. Costs less than turbosim.

AnySIM: rocky road in the past, early versions modified unnecessarily large portions of the GSM firmware, which resulted in phones being bricked by the latest software update. The latest version 1.1 claims to be more "discrete" but i've seen no source yet to personally confirm that one way or the other, the 1.1 beta still clobbered the firmware. It's free, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

Of course before you even get to unlocking there is the small problem of jailbreaking and activating the iPhone, which is a procedure in itself!

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#91732 19-Oct-2007 17:34

This is the bit I could never figure out, how are people getting these things? When we went to apple in the states, they wouldn't let my colleague buy one of these phones outright, he had to sign up to a 2 year contract...

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#91738 19-Oct-2007 17:55

yeah I've heard it both ways also.... I was going to get my mate to bring me one back. ... also the dude in the vodafone shop told me today the new i-mates will be out soon....

not sure what to do really.. and not sure if I back myself to unlock it or pay someone else to do it..
I back myself when it comes to techie stuff but worried I might brick it..

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#91739 19-Oct-2007 18:00

Honestly, the only potential bricking comes with the software unlocks. AnySIM in particular. Run AnySIM 1.1 at the wrong stage, and you'll have a brick, until you either pay for a IPSF license, which fixes the existing bricking issues, or a free unbricker is available.

But as far as the jailbreak /activation goes, there's little to no chance of bricking, just time consuming redoing the process properly.

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#91748 19-Oct-2007 19:56

lduncan: Honestly, the only potential bricking comes with the software unlocks. AnySIM in particular. Run AnySIM 1.1 at the wrong stage, and you'll have a brick, until you either pay for a IPSF license, which fixes the existing bricking issues, or a free unbricker is available.

But as far as the jailbreak /activation goes, there's little to no chance of bricking, just time consuming redoing the process properly.

Do you know why someone has not reverse engineered the IPSF software?

lduncan

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Master Geek

#91750 19-Oct-2007 20:09

The application has been reversed... but the really interesting stuff happens server side.

Basically they flash the BB with custom firmware, then they take a chunk of the secure area in NOR flash where the lock state is kept, send it up to their servers. Perform the unlock server side, and send the modified portion back to be written to the NOR. Then they clean up after themselves writing back the original firmware, which makes it appear as though the phone has been unlocked with an official NCK, (the normal method to unlock a phone).

benjimouse

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Wannabe Geek

#91799 20-Oct-2007 18:20

Anyone having problems with the new installer.app 3.0 released today?

Since instaling it, and enabling the community sources my phone has been non functional, about 4 hours now. It's sitting locked, with the installer.app "refreshing sources" message appearing over the top of the screen. If I try to unlock or power off, the confirmation slider appears, but because of the modal installer dialog message I can't actually do either of those things. I don't have an ssh server running, so I can't get into the phone that way either. Any ideas?

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Ultimate Geek

#91801 20-Oct-2007 18:33

Hey guys quick qestion, I've been looking at this link http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11833...

So this is the jail brake and the unlock? If I stuff this up can I risk locking the phone?

lduncan

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Master Geek

#91803 20-Oct-2007 18:48

That's probably the hardest way of jailbreaking an iPhone (it's more suited to the iPod Touch). Trying to connect to wifi will drive you crazy with that method. There are less temperamental ways of getting it done.

It's virtually impossible to brick the phone doing the jailbreak itself. You can always chuck it back into DFU mode and restore. The only potential bricking issues are when using the anysim software (including the latest version 1.1).

This is the method which is most commonly used for the iPhone:

http://www.iphonealley.com/news/iphone-v1-1-1-jailbreak-apptapp-installation-guide

On OS X it's been automated to a large extent with iNdependence. I don't know what tools are available for windows.

lduncan

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Master Geek

#91804 20-Oct-2007 18:52

benjimouse: Anyone having problems with the new installer.app 3.0 released today?

Since instaling it, and enabling the community sources my phone has been non functional, about 4 hours now. It's sitting locked, with the installer.app "refreshing sources" message appearing over the top of the screen. If I try to unlock or power off, the confirmation slider appears, but because of the modal installer dialog message I can't actually do either of those things. I don't have an ssh server running, so I can't get into the phone that way either. Any ideas?

Mac or PC?

If you're on mac, i'd try putting it into restore mode (hold down home and power until the yellow triangle shows) then plug it in, and fire up independence to kick it back out of restore mode.

Or you could try pulling your sim out and turning off your wifi router, things should time out pretty quickly, and allow the home button to work.

benjimouse

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Wannabe Geek

#91815 21-Oct-2007 07:06

Cheers Leighton, It ended up it just needing a restart. I didn't realize you could get past the power down slider by holding down both buttons.

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Ultimate Geek

#91827 21-Oct-2007 11:55

I'm a typical kiwi... and I love hacking things so will try hunt a decent windows sigh vista method.....

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#91884 21-Oct-2007 22:34

Folks this is a very long discussion and many topics are being discussed in parallel sometimes.

Could you please create new discussion for each different topic in the Mac OS X forum please? This will ensure people get answers for their specific problems and questions.

If no one complains I will lock this thread soon.

Thanks!

macuser

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#91887 21-Oct-2007 22:43

What about a OSXmobile topic majigger...I know, I know the phone runs a "full" OSX operating system, but that would be a good place for any iPhone/iPod touch related business..

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#91918 22-Oct-2007 15:22

macuser: What about a OSXmobile topic majigger...I know, I know the phone runs a "full" OSX operating system, but that would be a good place for any iPhone/iPod touch related business..

Sounds like a good idea. Since iPod Touch and iPhone share a lot of the same code it doesn't make sense to add a new smartphone category. OSXmobile sounds like the thing to do.

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