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Qdabean
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  #143826 7-Jul-2008 14:48
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martin308: I seriously doubt that they would price it at $199 and then only have 389 of them to sell

I could be wrong though


Depends entirely on when they're expecting their next shipment.  I don't they'd be popular if they shifted their price up and down based on stock replenishment.



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  #143827 7-Jul-2008 14:49
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bcourtney:
manhinli:

My common sense:

389 over around 40 stores (by quickly scanning through the maps) = around 10 iPhones per store.

Now lets push half of the stock to the 3 major 12am stores, leaving around 5 iPhones per general store, 65 per major store.


I don't see that being the case. If there WAS such limited stock then they would surely have a very limited number of stores launching with it (remembering the online store is selling it also).

Can you imagine the drama if there were only 5 handsets per store?? Only a couple of each model? Chaos would no doubt ensue and Vodafone would come out looking very red-faced. Imagine those poor buggers who DO line up only to find out that the first 5 people will be the only ones receiving a phone.

I think they've got it all under control. Or at least hoping they have...

I was quoting what my common sense would tell me if there were only 389 in stock nationwide.

I think the Online Store wouldn't have same-day delivery, so they can have a little more time to get more stock.




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  #143834 7-Jul-2008 15:00
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bcourtney:
manhinli:

My common sense:

389 over around 40 stores (by quickly scanning through the maps) = around 10 iPhones per store.

Now lets push half of the stock to the 3 major 12am stores, leaving around 5 iPhones per general store, 65 per major store.


I don't see that being the case. If there WAS such limited stock then they would surely have a very limited number of stores launching with it (remembering the online store is selling it also).

Can you imagine the drama if there were only 5 handsets per store?? Only a couple of each model? Chaos would no doubt ensue and Vodafone would come out looking very red-faced. Imagine those poor buggers who DO line up only to find out that the first 5 people will be the only ones receiving a phone.

I think they've got it all under control. Or at least hoping they have...

 
You would surely hope so.

I've just had the team here. for an interview on it. we hope that the prcing is correct. and that we will be getting good data plans for it as well.

They didnt really have much to say on it, and they only had the same information that we had.



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  #143837 7-Jul-2008 15:02
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manhinli:
bcourtney:
manhinli:

My common sense:

389 over around 40 stores (by quickly scanning through the maps) = around 10 iPhones per store.

Now lets push half of the stock to the 3 major 12am stores, leaving around 5 iPhones per general store, 65 per major store.


I don't see that being the case. If there WAS such limited stock then they would surely have a very limited number of stores launching with it (remembering the online store is selling it also).

Can you imagine the drama if there were only 5 handsets per store?? Only a couple of each model? Chaos would no doubt ensue and Vodafone would come out looking very red-faced. Imagine those poor buggers who DO line up only to find out that the first 5 people will be the only ones receiving a phone.

I think they've got it all under control. Or at least hoping they have...

I was quoting what my common sense would tell me if there were only 389 in stock nationwide.

I think the Online Store wouldn't have same-day delivery, so they can have a little more time to get more stock.


You would want to have same day dilvery, but really, its not practical.
You would probablyh be looking at about a week or two time delay in recieving it if you order online.

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  #143839 7-Jul-2008 15:05
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sbiddle:
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As per the spreadsheet on Mactalk, the $199USD for 8GB has a TCO of $1911AUD hen you consider the cost of a 2yr contract.

Umm..how can you add the total cost of ownership/contract (ie, how much you pay for 2 years) into the total and then refer to that as the "base price" ?

Vodafone would be crazy to advertise it as "hey...this is what it's going to cost you over 2 years"

Phil


Total cost of ownership is required in many countries (Australia being out cloeset example) and I personally believe it should be required.



 Personally, I think it should be required in New Zealand, does anyone have an idea on what it may cost in total then using a 2 year contract?

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  #143843 7-Jul-2008 15:06
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Online purchase raises a new subject - activation. Overseas it appears you have to go in store to activate (AT&T have done the worlds most complicated video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOTmD8tuM7s), so what happens here? It's no longer iTunes activation supposedly, so would yu have to take it to a shop?

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  #143848 7-Jul-2008 15:10
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That is a good point, you cant even buy it at the online apple store

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  #143852 7-Jul-2008 15:15
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Personally, I think it should be required in New Zealand, does anyone have an idea on what it may cost in total then using a 2 year contract?


About $2000NZD... http://forums.mactalk.com.au/47/52002-constantly-updated-international-iphone-price-rundown-10.html#post549338

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  #143853 7-Jul-2008 15:18
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a week or 2 to arrive if ordering online, that is an extremely slow fulfilment and courier deliver delay, I'd be looking around for a new distributor who could speed those times up



Aaroona:
manhinli:
bcourtney:
manhinli:

My common sense:

389 over around 40 stores (by quickly scanning through the maps) = around 10 iPhones per store.

Now lets push half of the stock to the 3 major 12am stores, leaving around 5 iPhones per general store, 65 per major store.


I don't see that being the case. If there WAS such limited stock then they would surely have a very limited number of stores launching with it (remembering the online store is selling it also).

Can you imagine the drama if there were only 5 handsets per store?? Only a couple of each model? Chaos would no doubt ensue and Vodafone would come out looking very red-faced. Imagine those poor buggers who DO line up only to find out that the first 5 people will be the only ones receiving a phone.

I think they've got it all under control. Or at least hoping they have...

I was quoting what my common sense would tell me if there were only 389 in stock nationwide.

I think the Online Store wouldn't have same-day delivery, so they can have a little more time to get more stock.


You would want to have same day dilvery, but really, its not practical.
You would probablyh be looking at about a week or two time delay in recieving it if you order online.

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  #143856 7-Jul-2008 15:20
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nathan: a week or 2 to arrive if ordering online, that is an extremely slow fulfilment and courier deliver delay, I'd be looking around for a new distributor who could speed those times up



Aaroona:
manhinli:
bcourtney:
manhinli:

My common sense:

389 over around 40 stores (by quickly scanning through the maps) = around 10 iPhones per store.

Now lets push half of the stock to the 3 major 12am stores, leaving around 5 iPhones per general store, 65 per major store.


I don't see that being the case. If there WAS such limited stock then they would surely have a very limited number of stores launching with it (remembering the online store is selling it also).

Can you imagine the drama if there were only 5 handsets per store?? Only a couple of each model? Chaos would no doubt ensue and Vodafone would come out looking very red-faced. Imagine those poor buggers who DO line up only to find out that the first 5 people will be the only ones receiving a phone.

I think they've got it all under control. Or at least hoping they have...

I was quoting what my common sense would tell me if there were only 389 in stock nationwide.

I think the Online Store wouldn't have same-day delivery, so they can have a little more time to get more stock.


You would want to have same day dilvery, but really, its not practical.
You would probablyh be looking at about a week or two time delay in recieving it if you order online.



Fair enough, but just  remember what NZ customs are like.

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  #143859 7-Jul-2008 15:22
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Fair enough, but just  remember what NZ customs are like.


NZ customs were super quick with my macbook pro, I think it took about 10 mins to clear according to TNT's website

 
 
 

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  #143860 7-Jul-2008 15:23
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PhilipRoy: Online purchase raises a new subject - activation. Overseas it appears you have to go in store to activate (AT&T have done the worlds most complicated video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOTmD8tuM7s), so what happens here? It's no longer iTunes activation supposedly, so would yu have to take it to a shop?

Phil


Umm, earlier on in the thread ( think this one)

Apple are actually releasing a new version of iTunes, and you can do it at home, pick your plan and all the rest of it.
But if you dont choose a plan within 30 days i think is, they will do something? What I dont know.

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  #143861 7-Jul-2008 15:24
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martin308:
Fair enough, but just  remember what NZ customs are like.


NZ customs were super quick with my macbook pro, I think it took about 10 mins to clear according to TNT's website


oh wow. If that sthe case then there shouldnt be any problems.

I just remember last couple of times i delt with customs, they were a real pain in the arse.

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  #143886 7-Jul-2008 16:23
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Aaroona:

Umm, earlier on in the thread ( think this one)

Apple are actually releasing a new version of iTunes, and you can do it at home, pick your plan and all the rest of it.
But if you dont choose a plan within 30 days i think is, they will do something? What I dont know.

I'm pretty sure this relates only to 1st gen iPhones that need to be 're-activated' after the original owner has moved their service to the 3G iPhone and has sold/given away their 1st gen iPhone.

So for example once you upgrade to 3G, your original phone gets bricked wirelessly and then must be un-bricked by the new owner in the same fashion that you originally unbricked it after buying it (activating, selecting plans etc. thru iTunes).

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  #143892 7-Jul-2008 16:31
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Benjip:
Aaroona:

Umm, earlier on in the thread ( think this one)

Apple are actually releasing a new version of iTunes, and you can do it at home, pick your plan and all the rest of it.
But if you dont choose a plan within 30 days i think is, they will do something? What I dont know.

I'm pretty sure this relates only to 1st gen iPhones that need to be 're-activated' after the original owner has moved their service to the 3G iPhone and has sold/given away their 1st gen iPhone.

So for example once you upgrade to 3G, your original phone gets bricked wirelessly and then must be un-bricked by the new owner in the same fashion that you originally unbricked it after buying it (activating, selecting plans etc. thru iTunes).


Oh okay, I was under the impression that we just did it all from home.

Because as another poster said beofre.


Is there really any reason for us to be able to buy online only to find we have ot take it to the VF store anyways?

Do I smell a lot of cost..

I mean, just to run the iphones around to the new owners, and then for the new owners to go to vodafone. Seems like a lengthy and un-necessary way to do it.

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