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#2584266 14-Oct-2020 12:18

geekiegeek:

I'm keen to see if the new glass is better at scratch resistance as the last few models seem to scratch very easily.

I am wondering about this too. My XS Max seems to have been very scratch prone so I'm more concerned about that than the impact resistance.

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#2584277 14-Oct-2020 12:37

New Zealand Pricing:

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#2584333 14-Oct-2020 14:11

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mmWave 5G is limited to the states I see. I wonder if it's just a firmware/software update to enable if other countries get mmWave in the future or if they have different radio chips in them.

If you look at the US v Rest of World Iphone, there is a patch on the right hand side of the rail of the US version for mmWave. So no. It wouldn’t be enabled in future elsewhere.

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#2584364 14-Oct-2020 15:39

Strange how none of the NZ telcos, and retailers, have the iPhone 12 plasted on their websites - hopefully it’s still on track for pre-orders and launch!

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#2584374 14-Oct-2020 16:12

Aucklandjafa: Strange how none of the NZ telcos, and retailers, have the iPhone 12 plasted on their websites - hopefully it’s still on track for pre-orders and launch!

Global airfreight is seriously gummed up at the moment..... I would guess vendors are being a bit cautious not to end up with lots of outraged customers awaiting product.

As a comparison, the new iPad is still listed as a 3-4 week wait at the apple store on certain models....

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#2584381 14-Oct-2020 16:42

Handsomedan:

Finch:

Edit: Crikey, starting at $1349 for the Mini (64GB) - Plus I'd have to buy a charger. Lol

I can't believe that in this day and age, they are starting at 64gb still...the absolute minimum nowadays should be 128gb - even when everyone theoretically has cloud storage.

Apps are getting huge, photo and video files are already large and you'd burn through 64gb very quickly, I feel.

The pro models already are 128GB min. But they have just released a brand new ipad with 32GB...

Most apps aren't that big. Maybe some 3D games are. Yes, photo and videos are huge, but even 128Gb is going to fill up fairly quickly. That is why they have icloud, as their business is also the subscription model. 64GB is fine for many. They were stuck at 16GB as the minimum spec for a long time, before moving up to 32GB.

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#2584383 14-Oct-2020 16:44

wellygary:

Aucklandjafa: Strange how none of the NZ telcos, and retailers, have the iPhone 12 plasted on their websites - hopefully it’s still on track for pre-orders and launch!

Global airfreight is seriously gummed up at the moment..... I would guess vendors are being a bit cautious not to end up with lots of outraged customers awaiting product.

As a comparison, the new iPad is still listed as a 3-4 week wait at the apple store on certain models....

Agreed on the global airfreight issues, though Apple NZ are already showing the iPhone 12 products on their website and starting to take orders from 17/10 at 1am. I would have thought that the NZ telcos and retailers would want to be selling from the same time as Apple NZ, otherwise they miss out on sales.

The global airfreight issues would impact Apple NZ as well as the NZ telcos and retailers, unless Apple have their own planes now :-)

Hopefully we see website updates by tomorrow for the telcos and retailers.

With the new iPad Air, Apple gave a pre-order date, but afaik they didn't give a release date. With the iPhone 12, they gave both a pre-order date and a release date (well at least for the Pro models - i didn't pay close attentions to the 12 and the 12 mini)

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#2584384 14-Oct-2020 16:47

Coming in late sorry...but am I right in that there is no charging brick, and the only connector is USB-C...which doesn't fit any existing apple bricks?

Lazy is such an ugly word, I prefer to call it selective participation

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#2584388 14-Oct-2020 16:57

scuwp: Coming in late sorry...but am I right in that there is no charging brick, and the only connector is USB-C...which doesn't fit any existing apple bricks?

Yes you're right, though iPhone users will have a number of existing changers and cables that'll still work on the new devices. And the lightning to usb-c cable might just be sat in the drawer. I don't have any power adapters with usb-c ports, but I do on my laptop and docking station.

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#2584392 14-Oct-2020 17:04

alasta:

geekiegeek:

I'm keen to see if the new glass is better at scratch resistance as the last few models seem to scratch very easily.

I am wondering about this too. My XS Max seems to have been very scratch prone so I'm more concerned about that than the impact resistance.

Likewise, at some point I stopped caring and whenever I catch it in certain light I'm amazed at how many micro scratches are on the screen

Will probably go for the 12 Pro Max 128gb, work will pay some towards it otherwise I couldn't stomach paying $2k for a phone.

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#2584394 14-Oct-2020 17:07

scuwp: Coming in late sorry...but am I right in that there is no charging brick, and the only connector is USB-C...which doesn't fit any existing apple bricks?

If you've got an apple USB brick, it likely came with a device with a lightning cord. I think the USB C cord is a future proof,-

As an aside the ipads now ship with a 20W USB-C brick... with the same USB-C to lightning cord

(given that new iPhones tend to have a higher RRP that most of the iPad range. iPhone buyers can probably feel justifiably aggrieved)

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#2584397 14-Oct-2020 17:14

bp1000:

scuwp: Coming in late sorry...but am I right in that there is no charging brick, and the only connector is USB-C...which doesn't fit any existing apple bricks?

Yes you're right, though iPhone users will have a number of existing changers and cables that'll still work on the new devices. And the lightning to usb-c cable might just be sat in the drawer. I don't have any power adapters with usb-c ports, but I do on my laptop and docking station.

I got a USB-C charging brick that came with my iPOad and also my MacBook Pro.

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#2584398 14-Oct-2020 17:16

bp1000:
scuwp: Coming in late sorry...but am I right in that there is no charging brick, and the only connector is USB-C...which doesn't fit any existing apple bricks?

Yes you're right, though iPhone users will have a number of existing changers and cables that'll still work on the new devices. And the lightning to usb-c cable might just be sat in the drawer. I don't have any power adapters with usb-c ports, but I do on my laptop and docking station.

I’ve got about 6 usb-a to lightning charges (from previous iPhones/iPads), and 2 usb-c charges (from current MacBook & iPad Pro), and currently charge iPhone via USB-C port on my MacBook (via usb-c to lightning cable).

So I’ll have 9 existing charging options to charge my iPhone 12 with.

The only people who will need to buy a $35 usb-c charging brick are those that don’t have an existing iPhone charger, a Qi wireless charger, or usb-c MacBook/IPad charger or computer with usb-c ports.

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#2584400 14-Oct-2020 17:23

wellygary:
scuwp: Coming in late sorry...but am I right in that there is no charging brick, and the only connector is USB-C...which doesn't fit any existing apple bricks?

If you've got an apple USB brick, it likely came with a device with a lightning cord. I think the USB C cord is a future proof,-

As an aside the ipads now ship with a 20W USB-C brick... with the same USB-C to lightning cord

(given that new iPhones tend to have a higher RRP that most of the iPad range. iPhone buyers can probably feel justifiably aggrieved)

Except the charging cables apple provides usually always fail around the lightning plug, as the rubber breaks down. I have made sure I haven't touched the rubber cable on mine and that has helped, as I think the oils in the skin are absorbed by the cable causing it to break down faster. I would have been more accepting if they switched to USB-c from lightning which they have done with the ipad pro. but I don't think they have on the iPhones yet. So many people will need to buy a charger that will fit the new cable especially if they want faster charging. Otherwise wireless charging, but personally I find it too slow unless doing it overnight and it is often easier to just plug in a cable that positioning it on the pad correctly in the dark

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#2584459 14-Oct-2020 18:26

roderickh:

alasta:

Is it sad that I am more excited about the magnetic accessories than the device itself?

But on a more serious note, is the iPhone 12 Mini supposed to replace the SE? Or is the SE still smaller and cheaper?

I too was excited to hear magsafe return... not in the Qi form though.

I don't think the 12mini is replacing the SE. The SE is hitting a sweet spot in the market (and for a lot of companies too, being their new standard).. I still have to use my 8 for another 1-2 years :(

The SE2 is quite a bit bigger and heavier than the iphone mini

I suspect the mini will be quite popular. The original SE phone is a great size as it can be easily used one handed, and the new SE is quite a bit larger, as it is just the old iphone with a home button format. So the 12mii should fill the gap left by the old SE. But still quite pricey

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