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  #3163140 24-Nov-2023 10:17
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SaltyNZ:


Having just done my mandatory annual refresher course on the New Zealand Privacy Act - which I assume is also probably required for the other guys - I assure you that selling user data is a lot more difficult for carriers here than the US. 


Google directly integrates chatbot services like Phorm into RCS.


I think we're going down a rabbit hole, and i acknowledge that our views will differ given that you work for an ISP. But note that Phorm wasn't a chatbot service, it was an advertising vendor that relied on ISPs giving it access to deep packet inspection of user data. And ISPs were happy to do this, without even telling users, right up until they got caught out. So it's good to know that user privacy is now higher profile than it used to be



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PolicyGuy:

 

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If you use Google RCS, the message goes in plain text from sender to receiver via Google, which is not subject to local laws but only those of the USA. Nothing prevents Google data-mining Google RCS messages or sharing them with third parties for commercial purposes. They are also inspectable by USA security & law enforcement agencies often without a warrant of any type. They are probably not inspectable by the sender's or the receiver's local security law enforcement agencies, unless the case is important enough to make an approach through US agencies.
Google RCS messages come out of your data allowance.

 

 

 

 

this seems somewhat out of date as google rcs is no longer sent as plain text.
Concerns around E2EE surely apply to any encrypted messaging service like whatsapp or iphone messages.


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  #3163234 24-Nov-2023 16:22
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farcus:
Concerns around E2EE surely apply to any encrypted messaging service like whatsapp or iphone messages.

 

 

 

 

Certainly does for WhatsApp - given that WhatsApp is owned by Facebook. There is currently no reason to think iMessage is compromised in any way.





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