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# 41124 10-Sep-2009 12:47
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"Telecom XT and 2 Degrees users affected, iPhone New Zealand says"

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/netw/21EACBCB19E4A957CC25762C00721FD1?opendocument&utm_source=topnews&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=topnews

 

And I thought that M$ were control freaks.  Apples got nothing on them..




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  # 254732 10-Sep-2009 13:01
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It's not so much Apple at fault, it's the iPhone carriers demanding Apple do this.

Remember that many carriers are charging premiums for tethering. This can be very easily exploited at present by manually reconfiguring your device. Now that they are locked down you can't get around it.


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  # 254741 10-Sep-2009 13:26
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Only now you've noticed how controlling Apple is? All the DRM they have on iTunes - and people talk about Microsoft only. All the iPhone App Store approval process - and people still think it's a great place. All the control over what you can and can't run on your iPhone - and Microsoft is the evil.

I don't understand why people can't see...

Now, what really bugs me is people who don't give link love to the original, but to the copy. Here is the original story: http://www.iphonewzealand.co.nz/2009/telecom/warning-for-xt-users-iphone-os-3-1-disables-tethering/




 
 
 
 


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  # 254751 10-Sep-2009 14:09
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Come on Telecom, finish those "deep discussions with Apple" already and release an official carrier bundle!

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  # 254759 10-Sep-2009 14:23
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A lot of users would have bought thier iPhone from the apple store, not intending to go on Vodafone, knowing that you can tether on any network, and then they take that away? Sorry but that's as good as a fault in my opinion, and not fit for the purpose it was purchased for.

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  # 254776 10-Sep-2009 15:05
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I guess a few iPhone users lured by the $600 inducements might be asking XT a few questions if this does not get fixed?

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  # 254784 10-Sep-2009 15:34
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Ham: A lot of users would have bought thier iPhone from the apple store, not intending to go on Vodafone, knowing that you can tether on any network, and then they take that away? Sorry but that's as good as a fault in my opinion, and not fit for the purpose it was purchased for.



I agree. Apple specifically says that it can be used on any carrier, and that message is still on the site now. I don't know why Apple and Telecom are even "negotiating", if Apple says that it can be used on any carrier then Telecom should be able to provide APNs etc to Apple, "no questions asked".

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  # 254785 10-Sep-2009 15:37
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Looks like I'm downgrading to 3.0 if I ever go on holiday and need to take tethered data with me :)

 
 
 
 


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  # 254807 10-Sep-2009 16:40
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Behodar:
Ham: A lot of users would have bought thier iPhone from the apple store, not intending to go on Vodafone, knowing that you can tether on any network, and then they take that away? Sorry but that's as good as a fault in my opinion, and not fit for the purpose it was purchased for.



I agree. Apple specifically says that it can be used on any carrier, and that message is still on the site now. I don't know why Apple and Telecom are even "negotiating", if Apple says that it can be used on any carrier then Telecom should be able to provide APNs etc to Apple, "no questions asked".



Where are you reading that?  All I can see them say is

"Tethering is not currently offered in the U.S. and some other countries. See your carrier for availability."
From here.

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  # 254813 10-Sep-2009 16:59
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Sorry, my post wasn't clear, I meant the phone itself rather than tethering.

"iPhone 3G & iPhone 3GS purchased at the Apple Online Store can be activated with any wireless carrier. Simply insert the SIM from your current phone into iPhone 3G or iPhone 3GS and connect to iTunes 8.2 to complete activation." - Apple Store.



I hadn't seen that footnote on the tethering page.

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  # 254845 10-Sep-2009 19:19
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Still, the fact that it did work when purchased, now it doesn't really isn't good enough



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  # 254852 10-Sep-2009 19:35
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CGA complaint??




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  # 254860 10-Sep-2009 19:56
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freitasm: Only now you've noticed how controlling Apple is? All the DRM they have on iTunes



Tethering issue was pressure from carriers
DRM was driven by the recording companies.

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  # 254870 10-Sep-2009 20:36
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The DRM argument isn't that simple. If I make an iPhone app and release it through iTunes, then it'll have DRM whether I want it or not. Before 2007, independent artists were forced into using DRM for their song downloads. Apple loves DRM.

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  # 254874 10-Sep-2009 20:44
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Excuse my ignorance... What's DRM?

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  # 254875 10-Sep-2009 20:47
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Digital Restrictions Management, a system for limiting the type and number of devices that content can be used on.

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