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Topic # 66483 19-Aug-2010 23:08
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Just been FaceTiming (?) with my brother in the UK.  Wow!  Picture quality was stunning, no delay and it's free!  What a great feature of the iPhone 4!

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  Reply # 370066 19-Aug-2010 23:16
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I just spent a hour skyping Katy Perry, it was awesome, was lag free, and she was rather hot in her red dress.




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Reply # 370069 19-Aug-2010 23:28
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michaelmurfy: I just spent a hour skyping Katy Perry, it was awesome, was lag free, and she was rather hot in her red dress.


umm... yeah sure... The OP (manta) is sharing the first time experience of using FaceTime, and you have to go an throw a trashbomb that doesn't have any usefulness of information to add.

Go play with your linux...




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  Reply # 370070 19-Aug-2010 23:31
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michaelmurfy: I just spent a hour skyping Katy Perry, it was awesome, was lag free, and she was rather hot in her red dress.


umm... yeah sure... The OP (manta) is sharing the first time experience of using FaceTime, and you have to go an throw a trashbomb that doesn't have any usefulness of information to add.

Go play with your linux...


lol sorry, yeah isn't Skype and Facetime abit the same? That's more or less what I was pointing at.
I am actually running OSX on my MacBook now >.< - There we go, you caught me out :P 




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  Reply # 370072 19-Aug-2010 23:33
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michaelmurfy: lol sorry, yeah isn't Skype and Facetime abit the same? That's more or less what I was pointing at.
I am actually running OSX on my MacBook now >.< - There we go, you caught me out :P 


Umm not quite the same. Otherwise there will be patent lawsuit!!! There's enough of that going around for many other things *rolleyes*


AND You on MacOS X! Geez! Hell must be frozen over in your linux world! 




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  Reply # 370075 19-Aug-2010 23:36
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@manta, do you see the value and practically of the FaceTime? I have had few handsets in the past that were capable of video calling but never really use it. And having switched to Palm Treo Pro which doesn't have video calling, can't say I'm missing it much though.

Video calling on 3GP is kinda limited quality at one time that I actually have to use. Hopefully the FaceTime protocol will make it over to iChat and other platform too.




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  Reply # 370077 19-Aug-2010 23:42
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chiefie: 
Umm not quite the same. Otherwise there will be patent lawsuit!!! There's enough of that going around for many other things *rolleyes*


AND You on MacOS X! Geez! Hell must be frozen over in your linux world! 


I thought the protocols are similar, Facetime uses SIP, but then again I did just look up Skype and it uses a P2P service loosely based around SIP, damn.

Yeah want to get away from my linux world at work, everything I deal with is linux based, I don't want to mess around with the terminal when I get home too >.< - Plus OSX works a bit better on the MacBook in terms of battery life, and the headphone jack >.<

Anyway, since I put this topic off-topic I think I should now say that we should possibly bring this onto topic again. I used to use my old N95 for Video Calling, Quality was average, plus it kept cutting out on me, it's possibly a good thing Apple has decided to not go with the old 3G standard, but here's hoping this standard opens up to other smartphones. 




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  Reply # 370082 19-Aug-2010 23:45
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i can see value in using video calling on an iphone. the screen quality is great, compared to other phones i've had that allowed video calling....they had low-res, small displays that really hindered the experience.

I haven't used iPhone 4 but I can see the appeal of an enjoyable and aesthetically pleasing video call on the handset.

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  Reply # 370084 19-Aug-2010 23:48
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Apple (Steve Jobs) did say they're making FaceTime protocol available for future platform and not just iDevices from the gest of it. Potentially they'll want FaceTime protocol to get picked up on other smartphone and internet connected devices, no doubt. Just the matter of who's gonna use it without being snob about it.

I guess the uptake of FaceTime protocol on non-Apple products would be like Microsoft's Exchange ActiveSync uptake by other parties.




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  Reply # 370104 20-Aug-2010 01:12
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michaelmurfy: I just spent a hour skyping Katy Perry, it was awesome, was lag free, and she was rather hot in her red dress.


 

share her ID please!Tongue out

 

when 3G network was launched in NZ, i bought sony ericsson v800 right out and video call it with my friends... and that was yearsssss ago. finally apple discover similar technology/concept 5 years later and it only works on wifi.





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  Reply # 370127 20-Aug-2010 06:40
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gehenna:  other phones i've had that allowed video calling....they had low-res, small displays that really hindered the experience.



I don't think you'll find it was the small screen that hindered the experience. Video calling just isn't very good.

Last time I used it was more than 2 years ago (I know this because my daughter turns 2 on the weekend and she's never seen it done - but my son used to ask to speak to his grandparents with it sometimes), and I've had a 3G phone since we built the 3G network at Vodafone, what, 7 or 8 years ago now?




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  Reply # 370145 20-Aug-2010 07:46
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michaelmurfy: I just spent a hour skyping Katy Perry, it was awesome, was lag free, and she was rather hot in her red dress.


 

share her ID please!Tongue out

 

when 3G network was launched in NZ, i bought sony ericsson v800 right out and video call it with my friends... and that was yearsssss ago. finally apple discover similar technology/concept 5 years later and it only works on wifi.



Except that video calling is more a blurry mess where you can't really show anything to anyone as they'll just see a blob. 

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  Reply # 370146 20-Aug-2010 07:47
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gehenna:  other phones i've had that allowed video calling....they had low-res, small displays that really hindered the experience.



I don't think you'll find it was the small screen that hindered the experience.


Disagree, I think I'll find that to be the case, as I know my mind and my mind is usually right about the things that I like or don't like....as I have the ability to think freely and form my own decisions based on an assessment of the criteria at hand :) 

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  Reply # 370160 20-Aug-2010 08:28
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Tend to agree with Salty, I used it twice on my previous SE phones, the video quality was actually pretty good I have to say, but after using it twice I was over it.

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  Reply # 370183 20-Aug-2010 08:46
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kiwitrc: Tend to agree with Salty, I used it twice on my previous SE phones, the video quality was actually pretty good I have to say, but after using it twice I was over it.

Exactly my experience too, but if Facetime is free (except for the use of bandwidth via wifi) and the picture quality is better than the crappy experiences I had with my old vid-call phones, then I think it could eventually take off.




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  Reply # 370202 20-Aug-2010 09:40
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@chiefie: Yes, that was really my reason for posting. We spent 3 years sailing here from the UK, lots of skyping with family in the UK, and then for the last two years here, again skype on and off, but never a very happy experience with screen freeze, delays, "no-you-go-first" sort of conversations and then dropped calls. And all of which sitting in front of a webcam. It became quite frustrating and the kids didn't like having to sit in front of a laptop or computer to see their grandarents in blocky, jerky video.


My facetime call with my bro last night was totally different. Crisp, clear hires video without any delay whilst we were both relaxed in our favourite chairs. Natural flow of conversation. It out-performs skype in every respect and by quite some margin.

@buttonmash: 'Except that video calling is more a blurry mess where you can't really show anything to anyone as they'll just see a blob. ', but not now with FaceTime.  Movement is clean and clear, I was able to show my bro what was on my laptop screen (a webpage) and he could read it clearly; the definition is great.

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