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#2512164 25-Jun-2020 14:06

@Dochart Come on how many people are in AUS compared to NZ? How can you get more data than unlimited? You really are taking this thread off Topic!

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#2512270 25-Jun-2020 15:21

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@Dochart Come on how many people are in AUS compared to NZ? How can you get more data than unlimited? You really are taking this thread off Topic!

At least you have unlimited mobile data here, you get big data plans in Oz but never unlimited, I think the most you get is with Optus and it is $119 a month for 500gb, but after that you pay $2 a GB

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#2512271 25-Jun-2020 15:21

tripper1000:

PolicyGuy: What I want to know is how this new 2Degrees / Vodafone thing works

No - 2DM phones will not operate in any nor all VF tower.
No - VF and 2DM phones will not necessarily roam on others towers seamlessly.
Yes, something different....
Forget roaming type arrangements, it is not roaming any any form.

In the past if two or more operators agree to share a tower, the operators still needed independent radios, antenna, feeders, cabinets etc - the tower was the only thing that was shared. This mean double or triple the gear attached to the tower, which makes the upgrade almost as complex as a new site build.

Using MoRAN, when a VF tower, that they have agreed to share with 2DM, is upgraded, a special 4G radio system is installed (called MoRAN). This enables multiple independent companies (VF and 2DM) to operate independently but using the same radio, same antenna, feeders, cabinet, power supply and tower, and maybe even the same frequencies. Broadly speaking the tower owner benefits by sharing the cost of upgrading, and sharing the future costs of maintaining the tower. The exact nature of the benefits and how costs are shared/recouped depends on the exact agreement they have.

Thank you, @tripper1000, a clear and concise answer
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#2512277 25-Jun-2020 15:28

gordo92:
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@Dochart Come on how many people are in AUS compared to NZ? How can you get more data than unlimited? You really are taking this thread off Topic!

At least you have unlimited mobile data here, you get big data plans in Oz but never unlimited, I think the most you get is with Optus and it is $119 a month for 500gb, but after that you pay $2 a GB

Yea that’s true. The cheapest unlimited plan is $36 with Skinny but slows down to 1.2mbps once you reach 4.5gb but I heard it is still fine to watch videos. If you can find 4 other people you could join 2degrees group unlimited mobile data deal that costs $40 for unlimited data but slows down once you reach 40gb but one person has to pay the bill you can’t pay individually.

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#2512310 25-Jun-2020 16:27

Off topic, but I don't think the unlimited data plans available in both countries are that expensive. Can get unlimited mobile data in AU or in NZ for circa ~$40 a month which is really not bad if you ask me. Sure speeds reduce after a certain amount but it's still more than useable.

On topic, I think this absolutely fantastic and is a great way for providers like 2D to expand their footprint and for VF to help with network build at a lower cost. I would like to see this initiative expanded - surely this can only lead to improved coverage and better networks at lower costs which is a win for everyone. I wish them the best with this and hope it's successful commercially.

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#2538013 10-Aug-2020 16:25

Does anybody know when this will be live?

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#2538021 10-Aug-2020 16:46

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Does anybody know when this will be live?

@user2 First MoRAN is meant to be live middle of this month but that will still leave 199 to go :)

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#2547233 21-Aug-2020 18:05

@2degreescare Any 2degrees MoRAN sites live yet and if yes where?

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#2547256 21-Aug-2020 18:50

Linux: @2degreescare Any 2degrees MoRAN sites live yet and if yes where?

Given the current situation in auckland.... it would not surprise me if they are on a change control brownout?

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#2547262 21-Aug-2020 18:53

Linux: @2degreescare Any 2degrees MoRAN sites live yet and if yes where?

Having a look at RSM records it looks like Tory Channel (Marlborough sounds) is going to be one of them, the TOPO 50 Map ref for Vodafone and 2degrees is identical and just been registered in the past few days.

Edit: Reading on a little more I can see L700 frequencies have been registered to plug that big 4G blindspot Vodafone has between Waiouru and Bulls, can only assume they will be MoRAN.

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#2547350 21-Aug-2020 21:52

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Dochart: With this agreement could this mean cheaper mobile plans with more mobile data?

@Dochart Mobile plans are already cheap in NZ and many have unlimited data and calling, If you read the article it's 1% of traffic!

With one caveat.

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#2547750 22-Aug-2020 17:52

DjShadow:

Linux: @2degreescare Any 2degrees MoRAN sites live yet and if yes where?

Having a look at RSM records it looks like Tory Channel (Marlborough sounds) is going to be one of them, the TOPO 50 Map ref for Vodafone and 2degrees is identical and just been registered in the past few days.

Edit: Reading on a little more I can see L700 frequencies have been registered to plug that big 4G blindspot Vodafone has between Waiouru and Bulls, can only assume they will be MoRAN.

@DjShadow Great thanks for the information :)

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#2547791 22-Aug-2020 19:05

No longer roaming south of Bombays / some areas where I used to in Clarks Beach - plus there's 4G.

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#2547793 22-Aug-2020 19:09

Dochart:
Yea that’s true. The cheapest unlimited plan is $36 with Skinny but slows down to 1.2mbps once you reach 4.5gb but I heard it is still fine to watch videos. If you can find 4 other people you could join 2degrees group unlimited mobile data deal that costs $40 for unlimited data but slows down once you reach 40gb but one person has to pay the bill you can’t pay individually.

SD maybe. But forget about HD.

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#2556611 3-Sep-2020 18:29

Driving to work this morning SH14 roam onto VodafoneNZ 3G as per usual and coming home this evening full 4G. Stopped the car to check and did some testing. Speed tests fantastic did a test voice call and that went over 3G hung up and straight back to 4G

Must be MoRAN on the site now as no way this site is RCG

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