[Snap] VDSL - Something is really not happy!

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#122103 24-Jun-2013 22:09

I just got cut over to VDSL and I see no difference at all in speed (actually I've lost 2Mbit download)

I'm emailing Snap as well but as it's late i guess their techies are probably sleeping, so I'll see what you guys can see :-)

I'm pretty sure the rather high Line attenuation will have something to do with the issue :-(

  Receive Direction      Send Direction

Max. DSLAM throughput      kbit/s 70000            10360

Min. DSLAM throughput      kbit/s 360     360

Attainable throughput         kbit/s 12732            1064

Current throughput kbit/s 12704            984



Latency                       fast     fast

Bitswap                      off      off

Impulse Noise Protection                 0.1       0.1



Signal-to-noise ratio dB       12       12

Line attenuation        dB       21       102

Carrier record                       A43     A43

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I've tried the usual stuff, Fritz box is plugged into the xDSL output of the Master Splitter, cable from the master splitter to the modem is about 60cm, there are no phone points wired up (I pulled the cable to them from the splitter) ... just outside phone line straight to master splitter. (I can take the splitter out of the equation relatively simply but I don't think it's the problem)

I got the same figures (give or take) when on ADSL with Xnet ... makes me wonder if there is a throttle from Xnet still on the line or something ?

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#843671 24-Jun-2013 22:09

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If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

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A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

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#843678 24-Jun-2013 22:11

Take a screenshot of the Fritzbox DSL and spectrum tabs and share those; it's easier than trying to keep the HTML formatting ;-)

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#843681 24-Jun-2013 22:16

Sorry about that .. formatting got completely munched before :-)

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#843694 24-Jun-2013 22:25

Images look broken from here

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#843741 25-Jun-2013 02:56

The images are fine.

Seems most of the carrier bins have issues, I suspect you have a bad line back to the exchange/cabinet or a line that splits in to multiple lines..
Get Snap to open a job with Chorus, they might have to swap out your line on to another pair.

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#843759 25-Jun-2013 07:38

You attenuation is way to high and your bitloading graph is virtually empty. This indicates you're either well outside the VDSL2 coverage area of have a major wiring issue somewhere.

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#843790 25-Jun-2013 09:02

Is your master splitter VDSL-compatible? Could be worth bypassing it just to be sure.

But the Attenuation certainly seems to point to a line/wiring issue.

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#843819 25-Jun-2013 09:47

that looks exactly like my VDSL connection when i tried , right down to the graphs and i got Chorus out to check and my wiring was fine , same speeds at both the road and my jack point, it turned out that the problem was the wiring between the cabinet and my house and chorus wasnt going to dig up the streets just for me to fix it as the speeds were acceptable and our street is due for UFB this year.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#845140 25-Jun-2013 17:27

I'll take the filter out of the equation and see if anything changes .. doubt it will :-(

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#845176 25-Jun-2013 18:38

Ping results are nice though ..... as soon as I get freedom from children I'll see about taking out the master splitter.

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#845185 25-Jun-2013 19:04

Do you have a VDSL2 master filter installed? Have you waited a week with the modem connected/on the entire time? It takes VDSL2 up to a week to train itself to your line conditions.

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#845200 25-Jun-2013 19:16

kyhwana2: Do you have a VDSL2 master filter installed? Have you waited a week with the modem connected/on the entire time? It takes VDSL2 up to a week to train itself to your line conditions.

DLM won't do much with that connection, doesn't matter how long you leave it.