[Snap] Where is the VDSL2 termination

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#123381 5-Jul-2013 12:02

So I'm thinking about leaving Vodafone cable as I'm using more the 150GB a month and I'm not happy with what its costing me compared to what I can get with VDSL.

My question though is where does the termination happen in the street, is it at the local exchange or is it the Telecom (chorus?) cabinet in the street?

Reason I ask is I know that the speeds are affected by distance and I have a cabinet across the road but the exchange is miles away.

Is there a minimum speed that snap will guarantee? If the speed is crap after install can I cancel straight away and not be held to the contract?

I know I could ask snap but I like it here :-)

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#849630 5-Jul-2013 12:02

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#849646 5-Jul-2013 12:16

It should be the cabinet. I think the only time it might be the exchange is when the ISP runs LLU equipment which I believe goes in the exchange. I don't believe snap do this though.

I very much doubt they will guarantee any speeds as this is nearly impossible to do on DSL. But.. given that wiring is now free and if your cabinet is across the street as you say, then I would say you'll have few worries.

I've been on snap VDSL for a while now and am very satisified. It's not always completely smooth sailing and I'll switch to UFB when I can, but until then very happy with it.

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#849649 5-Jul-2013 12:23

geekiegeek: If the speed is crap after install can I cancel straight away and not be held to the contract?

Maybe find a provider that doesn't lock you into contracts ;)

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#849666 5-Jul-2013 12:30

Assuming you're connected to the cabinet and it's a whisper cabinet of course, then itll be fine.

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#849714 5-Jul-2013 13:59

Snap will do a pre-qual on your line and be able to ascertain the local loop distance. From this they will decide whether to provision VDSL for you. The maximum attenuation for Chorus is 10.8dB. This means copper loop can be around 1km.

So basically just ring Snap and get them to pre-qual your line before signing up.

Edit: They will be able to tell you some download and upload speeds in this process to but don't be deterred by these if you think they sound low. They are very very conservative with these estimates.

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#882826 22-Aug-2013 15:18

chevrolux: Snap will do a pre-qual on your line and be able to ascertain the local loop distance. From this they will decide whether to provision VDSL for you. The maximum attenuation for Chorus is 10.8dB. This means copper loop can be around 1km.

So basically just ring Snap and get them to pre-qual your line before signing up.

Edit: They will be able to tell you some download and upload speeds in this process to but don't be deterred by these if you think they sound low. They are very very conservative with these estimates.

Not really an option as I don't presently have a copper line into my house.

I've left this for a while but am now hitting my cap sooner each month as have now added Spotify and using Hulu a lot more.

Had a look at the Chorus map and it seems that the cabinet across the road is used for VDSL to my address so I think the speed should be decent enough.

Now need to talk to Vodafone to see if they can swap me to a VDSL plan and how much that would cost vs going to another provider (I think Snap will install for free) and pay whatever to get out of my Vodafone contract (forced into 12 month contract when they changed the pricing recently).

Once I know the costs I can weigh that up against the extra I am paying in overage costs per month and see if its worth the change.

Just seems crazy to me that I can get 400GB cap on Vodafone VDSL but only 150GB on cable.

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#882846 22-Aug-2013 15:54

geekiegeek:
Just seems crazy to me that I can get 400GB cap on Vodafone VDSL but only 150GB on cable.

Vodafone are offering VDSL now?

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#882852 22-Aug-2013 15:59

Inphinity:
geekiegeek:
Just seems crazy to me that I can get 400GB cap on Vodafone VDSL but only 150GB on cable.

Vodafone are offering VDSL now?

Good point, it doesn't actually say what it is on the site - well not from what I can see.

Looks like I'm moving on. Its a shame as I've been a cable customer for many years now but its just not worth the extra cost anymore.

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#882919 22-Aug-2013 17:01

Hi geekiegeek

DM us your address and we'll take a look at it for you. Assuming you can get VDSL ok I think you'll be happy with the performance, there are plenty of friendly Geekzoner's that will back us up.

myfullflavour ... still trawling your competitors pages looking for business eh ;)

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