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# 140720 18-Feb-2014 17:10
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I'm in need of a little bit of advice on upgrading my broadband. I'm on an old SS broadband plan that isn't on their BN. I used to keep up with all the advances and wholesale arrangements etc, but I'm well out of date now.


I know i'm connected to a cabinet now, stats at the bottom of the post.
What I'm curious about, is if i connect to SS's BN, (the website says it is available at my address), Does my connection end up back at the exchange on SS's equipment, or still the cabinet? I don't want to upgrade to save ~$20 a month just to see my connection speed drop.

On a similar topic, I'm probably one of the few people that still has a homeline that isn't with my broadband supplier, so with SS's pricing there is a definite incentive to change my Homeline to SS, I'm assuming that a homeline on their BN is still a traditional phone line? not a soft phone system like on the ndsl plans? And if it is a traditional copper line, does that go back to the exchange while broadband stays cabinet? or does this simply not matter and i'm over thinking this all?

As far as vdsl goes, am I right that this is currently a wholesaled chorus option? (this also says on the website it is available at my addess). is there a downside to being on chorus gear? and can anyone fill me in on the uplink speed, i'm not overly worried about the downlink.

Just for background information, I only consume 20-30gig a month, I'm don't game and don't really use p2p, i just have a household with 7 devices connecting to the net.

Current connection stats
.997 up / 14.471 down
output power - 12 up / 19 down
attenuation - 6.5 up / 12 down
SNR - 12.5 up / 12 down 


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  # 989802 18-Feb-2014 17:10
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.



If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that



- you have reset your modem and router



- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing


- you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap



- your tests are always done on an ethernet connection to the router - do not use wireless for testing



- you read this topic and follow the instructions there.



Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:



- Your ISP and plan



- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)



- Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin)



- Your general location (or street)



- If you are rural or urban



- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin



- If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service



- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above



Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.



A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.



I recommend you read these two blog posts:



- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical)



- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP?

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  # 989889 18-Feb-2014 18:51
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Slingshot have different types of the 'Better Network'. There is UCLL which is basically a connection to the exchange for phone and broadband. Or a Baseband connection (refered to as SLUBA) which is a connection to Slingshot gear in the telephone exchange and Chorus gear at the cabinet. If you are connected to a cabinet already, you are in the SLUBA catagory.

VDSL is a totally different network and I'm unsure if the gear is Slingshot's specifically, but it is much quicker as you may already know. On a good profile (17A) you can see speeds up to 100Mb/s and upload up to 30 or 60Mb/s (Not sure if I'm correct on that one. I'm pretty sure on a 17A profile you can achieve a symmetrical connection)

If you are further away from the cabinet, your profile might settle on 8B, you can get up to 60Mb/s down and 30Mb/s up.
Your profile will depend on line quality and will almost always require a master splitter install.

Unless you are a heavy user or in a flat of 5+ users...The upgrade isn't worth it in my opinion. If you are that close to the cabinet, you should be able to get close to 20Mb/s anyway. More than enough for most, but if the price is right, go for it! :D


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