[Snap] Worth upgrading from Fritz 7390 to 7490?

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bigbadkiwi

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#154462 28-Oct-2014 22:25

Hey,

I just changed from one of the old UFB plans to one of the new UFB plans due to the $10 unlimited upgrade promo. I noticed that I am able to upgrade my 7390 Fritz (that I got for $50 extra when i signed up to my old plan) to the 7490 for $199.

Also, my ONT and Fritz are installed in the garage, so I use a Netgear AC1750 router that is positioned in the centre of my house thus essentially using the 7390 as a modem for the four wired gigabit ports.

I am just curious as to whether the slight increase in CPU speed (increase of 100mHz i think) would be any real benefit to me in the long term with UFB speeds, naturally, increasing in the future.

Thanks,
Sam

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#1164254 29-Oct-2014 12:53

Feels like a waste of money for something in the future. It seems that router is for the people who want those 200mbps speeds over a wireless connection.

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#1164258 29-Oct-2014 13:03

7390 can preform 200/200 fine, main benefit would the AC wireless, which you have taken care of already.

cjmchch would be able to give a good indication of how much headway it still has.

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#1165022 30-Oct-2014 14:09

I find my 7390 occasionally 'freezes' the internet access for a minute or two , maybe twice a day on average , such that internet pages will timeout or be very slow. It usually seems to come right so I've not really complained. On the odd occasion where the freeze has been longer, rebooting the router seems to fix the issue. This freezing is the same on different devices via both wired and wireless connections. Only internet access is affected, the internal fritz webpage and lan-lan communication seems OK.

I'm on UFB 100/50 plan via UFF.

I was wondering whether the 7490 with its extra ram and cpu power would stop this annoying problem.

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#1165024 30-Oct-2014 14:14

surfisup1000: I find my 7390 occasionally 'freezes' the internet access for a minute or two , maybe twice a day on average , such that internet pages will timeout or be very slow. It usually seems to come right so I've not really complained. On the odd occasion where the freeze has been longer, rebooting the router seems to fix the issue. This freezing is the same on different devices via both wired and wireless connections. Only internet access is affected, the internal fritz webpage and lan-lan communication seems OK.

I'm on UFB 100/50 plan via UFF.

I was wondering whether the 7490 with its extra ram and cpu power would stop this annoying problem.

I've never experienced this issue, so it might be unique to your unit and/or connection. The upgrade may or may not fix the issue depending on where the issue lies, eg, fritz, ONT, connection etc.

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#1165040 30-Oct-2014 14:26

NzBeagle:
surfisup1000: I find my 7390 occasionally 'freezes' the internet access for a minute or two , maybe twice a day on average , such that internet pages will timeout or be very slow. It usually seems to come right so I've not really complained. On the odd occasion where the freeze has been longer, rebooting the router seems to fix the issue. This freezing is the same on different devices via both wired and wireless connections. Only internet access is affected, the internal fritz webpage and lan-lan communication seems OK.

I'm on UFB 100/50 plan via UFF.

I was wondering whether the 7490 with its extra ram and cpu power would stop this annoying problem.

I've never experienced this issue, so it might be unique to your unit and/or connection. The upgrade may or may not fix the issue depending on where the issue lies, eg, fritz, ONT, connection etc.

this. ild look into whats happening.. are you dropping PPP?

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#1165095 30-Oct-2014 15:33

hio77:
this. ild look into whats happening.. are you dropping PPP?

PPP stays up. The internet connection just slows or stops for between 10 secs to a couple of minutes, usually it is around 30secs. I was wondering if it was related to overheating maybe.

My vpn connection seems to keep connected so it is not a total disconnect of the internet.

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#1165112 30-Oct-2014 15:48

I've never seen any overheating issues. I don't use mine for wifi, but it's the gateway and serves up all the ips. It averages CPU 36%.

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#1165129 30-Oct-2014 16:05

surfisup1000:
hio77:
this. ild look into whats happening.. are you dropping PPP?

PPP stays up. The internet connection just slows or stops for between 10 secs to a couple of minutes, usually it is around 30secs. I was wondering if it was related to overheating maybe.

My vpn connection seems to keep connected so it is not a total disconnect of the internet.

post screenshots of your fritz's cpu and temperature graphs when it happens? memory might help to give some indication too.

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#1167400 3-Nov-2014 10:56

hio77:
post screenshots of your fritz's cpu and temperature graphs when it happens? memory might help to give some indication too.

Where is the temperature graph? I looked under energy monitor but there is no temperature information. I googled and there is definitely a temperature graph on some 7390's but not on mine -- maybe the current firmware removed it?

However, I do have the cpu and ram, I'll check that next time this occurs.

Thanks for the pointer.

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#1167454 3-Nov-2014 11:15

surfisup1000: Where is the temperature graph? I looked under energy monitor but there is no temperature information. I googled and there is definitely a temperature graph on some 7390's but not on mine -- maybe the current firmware removed it?

However, I do have the cpu and ram, I'll check that next time this occurs.

Thanks for the pointer.

As you noted, it was removed in one of the firmware updates, if I recall hio is using an older firmware? I know it's not present in my 6.XX firmware on the 7390. CPU trends will show you similar information as there's generally a correlation.

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#1167546 3-Nov-2014 12:27

NzBeagle:
surfisup1000: Where is the temperature graph? I looked under energy monitor but there is no temperature information. I googled and there is definitely a temperature graph on some 7390's but not on mine -- maybe the current firmware removed it?

However, I do have the cpu and ram, I'll check that next time this occurs.

Thanks for the pointer.

As you noted, it was removed in one of the firmware updates, if I recall hio is using an older firmware? I know it's not present in my 6.XX firmware on the 7390. CPU trends will show you similar information as there's generally a correlation.

oh was it?

see i have sat at 5.21 since trying a few beta firmwares and not enjoying my experience or the loss of certain stat collectors.

as for where exactly, my fritz is sitting at my flat currently as it has not been moved yet, so i dont have access to it.

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#1167561 3-Nov-2014 12:46

hio77: oh was it?

see i have sat at 5.21 since trying a few beta firmwares and not enjoying my experience or the loss of certain stat collectors.

as for where exactly, my fritz is sitting at my flat currently as it has not been moved yet, so i dont have access to it.

From memory it was in the same place as the other graphs

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#1167596 3-Nov-2014 13:26

NzBeagle:
hio77: oh was it?

see i have sat at 5.21 since trying a few beta firmwares and not enjoying my experience or the loss of certain stat collectors.

as for where exactly, my fritz is sitting at my flat currently as it has not been moved yet, so i dont have access to it.

From memory it was in the same place as the other graphs

yes. next to the cpu and memory graphs.

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#1169632 6-Nov-2014 00:14

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