2 Degrees Number Scalpers appearing on Trademe

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#38973 6-Aug-2009 22:23

I guess it had to happen but Trademe is now flooded with 2 Degree SIMs, making it actually hard to search for other SIM cards.

Modus operandi - buy cheap SIM, load on a "good" number, sell on Trademe for $$$

Despicable really. I wish there was some way this could be limited.

I'd pay to be able to choose my number. Perhaps they should do this for every number change.

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#243705 6-Aug-2009 22:27

well they give you the first number change free, then its $5 each subsequent time i think

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#243708 6-Aug-2009 22:30

Regs: well they give you the first number change free, then its $5 each subsequent time i think

That's right. But I was thinking more that perhaps EVERY change should be charged.

But now I think more about it, even that won't stop them.

They will just sell for more :/

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#243712 6-Aug-2009 22:44

one of the comments on a 2degrees auction item was along the lines of "why so hard to login and change number" "i bought 25 cards and am having trouble requesting numbers".

I think this person just ended up listing them all with the numbers they came with :D

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#243767 7-Aug-2009 06:44

If you understood 2degree's retailer margins & incentives you would realise this was inevitable.

Selling SIM's and topups in good volumes is very, very profitable.

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#243790 7-Aug-2009 08:26

Scabs are called so for a reason and like their namesake they come and go but are always unpleasant ;-)

On the other hand these situations do tend to open up a whole can of worms on what is ethical and whats not...whos allowed to be in business and whos not etc...

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#243814 7-Aug-2009 09:15

Simple, 2degrees should insist trademe remove all listings for their sims.... as the sellers are not part of their resellers network.

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#243816 7-Aug-2009 09:19

How does Trademe react in such circumstances? Because I hear of promoters saying scalping is against their T&Cs and yet tickets are still sold on TM - is that due to lack of asking or lack of TM agreeing?

I kind of agree with your thinking, but then there may be genuine reasons for selling ONE SIM, so it gets hard. Of course at the end of the day selling ONE SIM probably breaches the T&Cs. But then does 2 Degrees want this sort of potentially bad PR?

Tough one.

At the end of the day selling of SIMs on TM comes about due to actually having to pay for a $30 SIM with $10 loaded. $2 SIMs with $2 on it mean you don't have to shop around for a cheap SIM.

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#243887 7-Aug-2009 12:22

Wow this is just a bit sickening.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=2982465

48 hand picked numbers not being sold for charity.

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#243889 7-Aug-2009 12:30

damn!

and so it begins...

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#243891 7-Aug-2009 12:33

That's so so bad. Not that this person denied me a number I wanted, but just the whole principle of this.

It's hardly entrepreneurial.

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#243954 7-Aug-2009 14:58

ahmad: That's so so bad. Not that this person denied me a number I wanted, but just the whole principle of this.

It's hardly entrepreneurial.

Bit like selling H20 for $50 a bottle in an emergency.

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#243956 7-Aug-2009 15:04

Well this is a way to make a quick buck. Wonder how much my 02200PENIS could go for :P?

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#243960 7-Aug-2009 15:37

mysticnz: Well this is a way to make a quick buck. Wonder how much my 02200PENIS could go for :P?

Put it up on Trademe... no pun intended !

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#243966 7-Aug-2009 15:47

I think it would be a dollar per inch, so in your case you might get $2?????

LOL

Seriously, this is just people looking to make a buck. Why do you care? I dont. Ill be proting my number so i dont really give a frick what number i get.

The force is strong with this one!

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#243992 7-Aug-2009 16:41

haha thanks rossmnz........lol

Yea people who want numbers there are still 1000's available and the ones on trademe are only going for 2-3$ each anyways

200$ reserve?

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