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droan

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#92836 7-Nov-2011 15:30
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Very excited to see if I can finally leave Vodafone (tried telecom and 2degree before) with their yet to announce mobile plan. Look forward to it. Any hint from Slingshot would really add the cherry on the top :)

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sapage
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  #542143 7-Nov-2011 18:17
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Hey Droan - indication is new mobile plans within 5 days. Shall I add your email address to the first notification list?

What sort of mobile handset do you use today?

Cheers
Scott
 




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  #542146 7-Nov-2011 18:20
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List me up Scotty!

I am a proud Samsung Galaxy S2 owner! (S2 rulz!)

 
 
 
 


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  #542149 7-Nov-2011 18:24
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I really wouldnt expect much, remember they are reselling off Telecom, so wont be able to undercut them directly. You might see innovative bundling with home broadband etc, and maybe sharper international calling, but i doubt they will be competitive in the NZ txting/NZ calling/data areas

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  #542153 7-Nov-2011 18:28
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Hi Nickb800,

Purely out of interest:  What would you people on geek zone really like to see as a mobile plan?
What's most important to you?

- How many included minutes?
- How many included TXT's?
- How important is mobile data?
- What sort of price would suit you?

Scott 




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  #542155 7-Nov-2011 18:28
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Well Scott hasnt fail me so far so I am giving some hope!

droan

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  #542158 7-Nov-2011 18:33
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sapage: Hi Nickb800,

Purely out of interest:  What would you people on geek zone really like to see as a mobile plan?
What's most important to you?

- How many included minutes?
- How many included TXT's?
- How important is mobile data?
- What sort of price would suit you?

Scott 


Scott

If you really want to make a impact on the market:

Take the best from your competitive with the best rate you can offer i.e.

$40 smartphone plan
100 to 120 minutes national n video
2500 txt
500mb
and throw a cherry on the top with fix contract i.e. choose either more minutes or more data or more txt

that will gets my heart racing to you guys in no time!
 

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  #542159 7-Nov-2011 18:37
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Mins: 20-30
Texts: 2500
Data: 1-2Gig

Cost $40

I'm prob dreaming but it would be nice

 
 
 
 


ajw

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  #542358 8-Nov-2011 08:43
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To make a decent impact on the mobile market why not just seriously undercut the existing postpaid pricing of Telecom, Vodafone, and 2 degrees. Likewise when you launch prepay. What is the use changing provider unless you can make significant cost savings especially if you have to buy a new handset as part of the equation.

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  #542372 8-Nov-2011 09:11
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ajw: To make a decent impact on the mobile market why not just seriously undercut the existing postpaid pricing of Telecom, Vodafone, and 2 degrees. Likewise when you launch prepay. What is the use changing provider unless you can make significant cost savings especially if you have to buy a new handset as part of the equation.

Because they are reselling Telecom, so doing so would invoke a pricewar that they couldnt win. Plus im pretty sure they would have a contract with them not to directly undercut them

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  #542376 8-Nov-2011 09:20
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nickb800:
ajw: To make a decent impact on the mobile market why not just seriously undercut the existing postpaid pricing of Telecom, Vodafone, and 2 degrees. Likewise when you launch prepay. What is the use changing provider unless you can make significant cost savings especially if you have to buy a new handset as part of the equation.

Because they are reselling Telecom, so doing so would invoke a pricewar that they couldnt win. Plus im pretty sure they would have a contract with them not to directly undercut them


As I said in my previous post so unless you are making significant cost savings why change provider. As a consumer the first thing I look at is what is in it for me especially when having to buy an expensive smartphone.

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  #542404 8-Nov-2011 10:06
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ajw:
nickb800:
ajw: To make a decent impact on the mobile market why not just seriously undercut the existing postpaid pricing of Telecom, Vodafone, and 2 degrees. Likewise when you launch prepay. What is the use changing provider unless you can make significant cost savings especially if you have to buy a new handset as part of the equation.

Because they are reselling Telecom, so doing so would invoke a pricewar that they couldnt win. Plus im pretty sure they would have a contract with them not to directly undercut them


As I said in my previous post so unless you are making significant cost savings why change provider. As a consumer the first thing I look at is what is in it for me especially when having to buy an expensive smartphone.

Your right, but slingshot simply cant make a splash in the market as a reseller - just look at all of the other MVNOs. The only space they can really compete in is in how they bundle with homeline & broadband

ajw

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  #542408 8-Nov-2011 10:13
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nickb800:
ajw:
nickb800:
ajw: To make a decent impact on the mobile market why not just seriously undercut the existing postpaid pricing of Telecom, Vodafone, and 2 degrees. Likewise when you launch prepay. What is the use changing provider unless you can make significant cost savings especially if you have to buy a new handset as part of the equation.

Because they are reselling Telecom, so doing so would invoke a pricewar that they couldnt win. Plus im pretty sure they would have a contract with them not to directly undercut them


As I said in my previous post so unless you are making significant cost savings why change provider. As a consumer the first thing I look at is what is in it for me especially when having to buy an expensive smartphone.

Your right, but slingshot simply cant make a splash in the market as a reseller - just look at all of the other MVNOs. The only space they can really compete in is in how they bundle with homeline & broadband


Time will tell. Slingshot say these plans will be released within five days. As you can see by the following press release Callplus/Slingshot are also launching prepay.



CallPlus and Slingshot are switching to Telecom Wholesale to provide its customers with faster, flexible and more competitive mobile services through the Telecom 3G Network.As a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO), CallPlus and Slingshot had previously used Vodafone, however a review of the service offering by Telecom has prompted the decision to change.

Mark Callander, CEO of the CallPlus Group, says the decision was driven by the need to ensure both the business and residential arms of the group were providing its customers with a mobile network that kept pace with technology and innovation while maintaining price competitiveness.

“This decision allows both brands the flexibility to offer customers great value and a compelling mobile proposition in all market segments, including prepay, residential, SME and corporate.”

“The use of Smartphones has grown dramatically in the last couple of years and they are now an essential tool for many people. The Telecom network is designed for Smartphones and moving mobile data around the country at ultra-fast speeds.”

According to independent research* the Telecom XT network in Central Auckland has the best download and upload speed for users accessing the web on their mobile phones.

“We have some big ambitions for driving growth in mobile services over the next few years and we believe the Telecom Wholesale team is the right partner to help us achieve these goals.  Soon we’ll be able to offer even better data plans and we will also be launching some new Smartphone and group data packages,” says Callander.

In the coming weeks both CallPlus and Slingshot will be contacting all their customers to explain the transition to the Telecom Network and the benefits it will bring to their mobile services. 

“Our aim is to make the move as seamless as possible for our customers and we believe that once they experience the benefits of the Telecom mobile network they will be pleased we made the decision to change,” concludes Callander. 

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  #542438 8-Nov-2011 11:00
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One things isnt right about the press release. Vodafone is faster than Telecom on the 3G network! Yes, Telecom used to be faster but vodafone has invest in it's infrastructure the past few years. Also one thing to consider is the new LTD or 4G network that is planned for 2014 (I think). Who will roll it out first? Voda or Tele?

In regards to the Mobile virtual Operator, I think the regulars has set a fixed price for telecom n Vodafone to supply to any other players like 2 degree/telstra and soon to be slingshot. And if you compares all the relevant company so far each has it's own advantages.

It is true that launching a new plan which undercut the rest of the suppliers would make a impact, but i dont think it will have a price war as such i.e. current phone line/internet hasnt move on prices. But instead telco focused on added value based strategy to win more customers.

For example, Vodafone has just upped their ultimate plan from 45g to 60g in response to other telco's competitiveness  They have increased the data plan twice in less then half a year from 30g to now 60g! Now that's what I call market competition.

With more and more players joining the market, major 2 telco suppliers wont enjoy the rich margin that they used to enjoy and that's great news for us as customers as it is about bloody time!

NZ still have one of the highest mobile charges and it's great that it's gradually coming down. Give credit to company like Slingshot/2degree who recognise the gap really wants to make a impact. It is them who are driving cheaper and more reasonable pricing for us! 

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  #542441 8-Nov-2011 11:09
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um 2 Degress is not a MVNO... They are not in the same boat as Telstra and Slingshot at all. :)

droan

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  #542444 8-Nov-2011 11:13
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Bee: um 2 Degress is not a MVNO... They are not in the same boat as Telstra and Slingshot at all. :)


Arent they using Vodafone network? maybe I was wrong.....now that you mention maybe they have build their own network. Maybe that's why my mate complaint about poor/no reception once out of major city? 

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