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203 posts

Master Geek

#190469 19-Jan-2009 08:58

question,
is the epg data on freeview dtt transmited in the data stream the same as the dts eit epg data . ?
why i am asking is that the ET WORKED B4 the nz meheg5 epg uppdates were applied.
you will also know that there are virtually no problems with non meheg5 dtt and dts pvr's which use the eit epg.
my htpc works fine with eit epg , my coship satelite pvr also works fine with eit epg .
i challenge any one to prove that there is a meheg5 epg'd pvr without issues.

Garglo

49 posts

Geek

#190488 19-Jan-2009 11:17

I Agree ... MHEG5 is FLAWED FULL STOP.

Even before you ADD PVR. The code for this is RUBBISH. (May as well be running in DOS. Remember those days) You will notice with the satellite recievers those with MHEG5 take over 2 secs to change a channel. Those WITHOUTt the MHEG5 EPG, near instant.

On the HD service receivers with MHEG5 EPG, note how long it takes for the receiver to bring up a screen on pushing the EPG(MHEG5). button. Also within this program, to change a screen, is also dreadfully slow.

Maybe we should lobby for all the receivers to migrate to the European EPG standard MHP middleware.

Lurch

1061 posts

Uber Geek

#190504 19-Jan-2009 12:27

So after reading through this thread I should stay away from the ET? Might just upgrade the Sat decoder I have to a PVR and avoid the HD receivers for now. :-)

bazzer

3438 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#190513 19-Jan-2009 12:43

Lurch: So after reading through this thread I should stay away from the ET? Might just upgrade the Sat decoder I have to a PVR and avoid the HD receivers for now. :-)

I wouldn't say that. It depends on your expectations. I just wanted a cheap Freeview|HD receiver and didn't expect the PVR function. It's not perfect, but it meets my needs.

robjg63

4098 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

#190517 19-Jan-2009 13:05

bazzer:
Lurch: So after reading through this thread I should stay away from the ET? Might just upgrade the Sat decoder I have to a PVR and avoid the HD receivers for now. :-)

I wouldn't say that. It depends on your expectations. I just wanted a cheap Freeview|HD receiver and didn't expect the PVR function. It's not perfect, but it meets my needs.

I would say be carefull - Some people have demonstrated that where the ET doesnt work well (picture break ups box rebooting etc), other brands have worked perfectly. So - buyer beware. That said - there obviously users that seem happy with the unit.

Maybe the best bet would be to make sure that if you are going to buy an ET, get an assurance that you can take it home and try it - If it doesnt work out they will refund you.

Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself - A. H. Weiler

Lurch

1061 posts

Uber Geek

#190520 19-Jan-2009 13:13

If I was going to purchase a set top box it would have to have the PVR option, not too fussed if it comes with an HDD, have plent of USB external drives that I can use.

There are a couple of boxes I've been looking at, listed below.

http://www.efrontier.co.nz/estore/product_info.php?cPath=44&products_id=275&gclid=CJ61joGsmZgCFQwxawodXxWLlQ

http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/hyundai-ah3110-digital-terrestrial-satellite-p-495.html

The second one looks really good to me :-)

smac

333 posts

Ultimate Geek

#190523 19-Jan-2009 13:21

Lurch:

There are a couple of boxes I've been looking at, listed below.

http://www.efrontier.co.nz/estore/product_info.php?cPath=44&products_id=275&gclid=CJ61joGsmZgCFQwxawodXxWLlQ

http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/hyundai-ah3110-digital-terrestrial-satellite-p-495.html

The second one looks really good to me :-)

The first one is the one all over trademe.....very keen for somebodt to take the plunge (might have to be me...)

The second one is the one you need a sat dish for the EPG to work, otherwise I'd be interested.

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wiredr

203 posts

Master Geek

#190527 19-Jan-2009 13:31

surely there must be someone with a meheg5 pvr that works as advertised.

hbk

94 posts

Master Geek

#190599 19-Jan-2009 20:05

I just saw this auction on trademe; http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=198008936

Maybe it has already been discussed, but anyway the auction doesn't mention the box supporting mheg-5 but the seller says;

Q: Does this support the 8 day epg from freeview ?

A: Hi Gordon, At present the answer is yes & no as our current EPG on the Tvix only displays program information for about a half day in advance, but it does display future program time slots without the program information. We are currently working on a firmware update to display the full week EPG. Also the PVR function works with the current EPG & you are also able to schedule recording of any FreeView channel in advance using the timer record options via date & time selection. Cheers David

Wonder how it is getting the EPG info?

/slightly off topic

wiredr

203 posts

Master Geek

#190607 19-Jan-2009 20:24

their machine is not meheg5 compatible the epg is the eit . which begs the question how is it unique to nz. ?

thebeezneez

5 posts

Wannabe Geek

#190654 19-Jan-2009 22:27

Hi Guys,
I'm one of the 'lucky' ones - I've had my ET since early Oct working out on Waiheke Is, and other than having to reboot it prob once a week, I haven't really had any problems. I consider rebooting weekly to be acceptable - this is normally required when I'm unable to change channel or the mute icon stays onscreen despite not being muted. Like most, I've found the Quality and Signal indicators a mystery - Quality at full strength, Signal displayed at 10% odd?!

My question though is about the software, should I be updating the software at all?
I have not made any upgrades since receiving the box, and reading the posts, am reluctant to make any changes. Like most, I'm keen and waiting for that PVR functionality which is creating so much discussion. But otherwise, dont see any real reason to update software at this point.

hbk

94 posts

Master Geek

#190695 20-Jan-2009 08:14

wiredr: their machine is not meheg5 compatible the epg is the eit . which begs the question how is it unique to nz. ?

I was just thought it was interesting they are extracting the data and displaying it in their own EPG, as there's no other DVB-T boxes or even PC PVR software that can do this yet (that I Know of)...

smac

333 posts

Ultimate Geek

#190702 20-Jan-2009 08:45

Heh...I wonder if the winning bidder realises the HDD is extra....hope it's not a proprietry one....

Seems kinda expensive for a single tuner receiver with no HDD or full EPG.......

Anyway, back to the ET.....

MrWestie

116 posts

Master Geek

Trusted

#190723 20-Jan-2009 09:53

I have requested a refund again after the update failed to materialize on Sunday as promised the second time to me.

No response to email sent Monday morning.

Will send another one and call tomorrow if nothing heard.

Then maybe my first red face on tm

Garglo

49 posts

Geek

#190729 20-Jan-2009 10:09

Wiredr Maybe start a new THREAD .... I see that your request has been buried again.

i challenge any one to prove that there is a meheg5 epg'd pvr without issues.

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