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Topic # 112609 14-Dec-2012 09:36
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Hi All,

I have a Sony Bravia TV with Freeview built in but it is not picking up freeview.

The thing is I have a set top box that does recieve freeview which is hooked up to my Bravia

Any ideas on how i can get rid of the set top box and get freeview direct to my Bravia???



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  Reply # 732403 14-Dec-2012 09:42
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Is your box hooked up to an aerial or a dish?

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  Reply # 732404 14-Dec-2012 09:42
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The TV will have a built in DVB-T unit which reqs an antenna and your property being able to get a signal, whereas your set top box might be DVB-S running via an old Sky dish which will work pretty much anywhere.

Punch in your address here and check what you should be able to get.





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  Reply # 732407 14-Dec-2012 09:48
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Its connected to a UHF Aerial & yes I punched my address in the free view website & it has coverage 

When i plug in my old CRT TV it receives channels 1,2,3,4 & Prime + Maori the usual without the decoder.

So confused I know my TV receives Free view because I had it around the corner at my old house a week ago

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  Reply # 732411 14-Dec-2012 10:00
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Plug aerial direct into tv.
Use top left button on Bravia remote and select TV instead of HDMI.
Then it should automatically search and set for stations.



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  Reply # 732413 14-Dec-2012 10:04
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Yes done all that its not picking up any stations except Chinese/japanese ones.

would it just be a case of moving my aerial to pick up a full signal?

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  Reply # 732420 14-Dec-2012 10:22
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nzmoves: Yes done all that its not picking up any stations except Chinese/japanese ones.

would it just be a case of moving my aerial to pick up a full signal?


If you are getting the Asian channels (Which I am presuming are VTV) it means you are pointing at the Sky Tower, 

All that should be required is a retune to pick up the Freeview channels




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  Reply # 732425 14-Dec-2012 10:29
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Do you mean retune the TV or Aerial?

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  Reply # 732428 14-Dec-2012 10:32
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nzmoves: Do you mean retune the TV or Aerial?


The TV,

 also what is the signal strength on the channels you can get ?, it will be an option in the tuning menu somewhere....



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  Reply # 732430 14-Dec-2012 10:35
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Signal Strength is great but still not picking up other channels

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  Reply # 732432 14-Dec-2012 10:39
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Can you reset the TV back to default and re-run the inital setup?

When you are cycling through the inputs does it have ATV and DTV? Is there anything on either?

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  Reply # 732453 14-Dec-2012 10:53
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trig42: Can you reset the TV back to default and re-run the inital setup?

When you are cycling through the inputs does it have ATV and DTV? Is there anything on either?


They should be able to go >General settings > factory settings to get back to an out of the box state......

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  Reply # 732513 14-Dec-2012 11:50
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nzmoves: Yes done all that its not picking up any stations except Chinese/japanese ones.

would it just be a case of moving my aerial to pick up a full signal?

No.
If your STB is picking up all Freeview channels OK then unplug the aerial from the STB and plug it into the TV.
Then do an autotune.
If they work OK on the STB there's no reason why the TV wont receive them.

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  Reply # 732570 14-Dec-2012 13:45
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I am in Titirangi too, and have 3 TV's in the house.

1 x Panasonic which has aerial directly into it; works fine
1 x Samsung which has STB, because TV's internal Freeview decoder would not pickup the signal, but the STB works fine
1 x Samsung which has aerial plugged directly into it; works fine.

Hows that for bizarre. So who knows if you have a similar situation to me, but the Samsung that has the STB used to work fine where we were (also in Titirangi) without the STB, but when moving to where we are now the signal just doesn't sit well with the screen, so the STB had to be used.

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  Reply # 732590 14-Dec-2012 14:38
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Yay, Titirangi geekzoners unite.
I don't have anything helpful to contribute to the discussion, other than I do receive UHF Freeview. Newish UHF antenna and an older VHF antenna, which the antenna guy linked together, I think. And have a powered signal amplifier too.

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  Reply # 732688 14-Dec-2012 17:58
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The obvious suggestion is your reception is weak and the STB is better with a poor reception then your TV. (It's not true if one device can reliably pick up a signal all other devices supporting the same standard and using the same aerial can as well, some devices can cope with weaker signals better than others. This is true for DVB-T but also DVB-S and really any other wireless transmission standard.) Also remember the Sky Tower transmission is infill only, the signal I believe is quite a lot weaker then Waiatarua so even if you have decent LOS, you may still have problems. The testing of Asian channels off Sky Tower is I believe at a higher power so the fact these work with good signal strength but normal Freeview doesn't may not be a surprise. (Edit: Forgot to mention, remember as well that depending n your antenna, certain frequencies will pick up better then others.) What's the signal strength on proper Freeview channels on the STB? And is it possible to check the transmission channel or frequency number to work out precisely what the STB is picking up?

Also I've never used an official Freeview device but if you have the option, it may be worth asking it to do a complete scan if possible rather then only scanning for channels in Auckland, it's possible it's not scanning the infill channels/frequencies properly or something. (Not sure what frequency the Asian channel testing is on but it's possible the Freeview device doesn't consider it an infill.) 


IMO the other obvious question is whether Waiatarua would have better receiption then Sky Tower. In Titirangi it may be you don't have good LOS but with a strong signal and considering your proximity it may still be worth trying it instead of Sky Tower if you can get someone to adjust the aerial. Have you actually checked where the aerial is pointing (and also made sure the polarisation is right for wherever it is pointing)? 

P.S. There's a chance a signal amplifier may help but often it won't. Remember it's amplifying everything include noise. The most obvious time to use a signal amplifier is when you're splitting the signal and you find it works fine without splitting but you have problems when you split. Or when you have a very long cable run and it works fine near the beginning of the cable but not the end. In such a case, amplifying before splitting or before the long cable run may help.

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