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#38533 31-Jul-2009 09:17
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10587679

If this article is to be believed it might finally be happening. Fingers crossed.

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  #240854 31-Jul-2009 09:33
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Crosses fingers for dvb-s!! come on now!!

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  #240855 31-Jul-2009 09:33
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Fingers crossed it will go onto DVB-T at least, means my olds can finally stop switching between freeview and UHF to watch prime

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  #240856 31-Jul-2009 09:38
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fingers crossed for dvb-t here. i won't be amused if they only broadcast it on dvb-s and i have to go out and buy another stb.



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  #240860 31-Jul-2009 09:50
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The thing is......... If your in a dvb-t area chances are you can get prime on uhf anyway.. what about the rest of the country that cant get it at all!?? dvb-s is the logical choice.. get more people onto prime, instead of giving people who can get it anyway a clearer picture.. i never understand the logic behin these companys, but as with everything we who don't live in a main centre will most likely get shafted again..

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  #240864 31-Jul-2009 10:07
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You could assume based on the article, they are talking about DVB-T - the reasoning being Sky/Prime don't need Kordia's input to make Prime FTA over DVB-S, they could simply broadcast the Prime signal unencrypted.

Reading into the article - the main stumbling block is still the transmission costs from Kordia - funny that, same as it has always been... Kordia still don't want to cut their prices - cause then everyone will want them... Gotta love the mentality of government owned monopolies...

As for the dual box issue - I don't believe Freeview/Kordia/TVNZ have ever cared about that in the first place. If they had designed the network for the consumers we wouldn't be in a situation where we have one lot of channels over DVB-S and a different set on terrestial, and a HD network that only some of the country can access.

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  #240869 31-Jul-2009 10:16
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My UHF Prime is not really watchable, but my Freeview|HD is great.

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  #240870 31-Jul-2009 10:19
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garvani: The thing is......... If your in a dvb-t area chances are you can get prime on uhf anyway.. what about the rest of the country that cant get it at all!?? dvb-s is the logical choice.. get more people onto prime, instead of giving people who can get it anyway a clearer picture.. i never understand the logic behin these companys, but as with everything we who don't live in a main centre will most likely get shafted again..


i can get prime on analogue uhf but it's fuzzy as and a lot of the time it's unwatchable. maori tv on analogue uhf is crystal clear though and i get a rock solid picture on dvb-t. so just because i can get prime on analogue doesn't mean that the picture is anywhere near watchable.



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  #240927 31-Jul-2009 12:28
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butlerboy: If this article is to be believed it might finally be happening. Fingers crossed.


Allow me to play devil's advocate here, and it's been discussed before (Prime getting onto Freeview), so why is it so important that Prime gets onto Freeview?


/doesn't watch much tv.

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  #240942 31-Jul-2009 12:45
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Because not everyone can get the signal for it on the old FTA. Im in Auckland and I cant get Prime but would love to. If FV gets Prime on DVBS then Ill be happy :) Some damn good shows :)




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  #240998 31-Jul-2009 14:36
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nate:
butlerboy: If this article is to be believed it might finally be happening. Fingers crossed.


Allow me to play devil's advocate here, and it's been discussed before (Prime getting onto Freeview), so why is it so important that Prime gets onto Freeview?


/doesn't watch much tv.


and for those who don't care enough about the rugby to pay the $15 a month extra to sky and still want it off digital - prime is the only way to get it.  Also after being used to Freeview|HD for Tv1, 2, 3 etc  watching Prime off the analogue tuner looks disgusting...




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  #241088 31-Jul-2009 21:04
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RustyGonad: You could assume based on the article, they are talking about DVB-T - the reasoning being Sky/Prime don't need Kordia's input to make Prime FTA over DVB-S, they could simply broadcast the Prime signal unencrypted.

Reading into the article - the main stumbling block is still the transmission costs from Kordia - funny that, same as it has always been... Kordia still don't want to cut their prices - cause then everyone will want them... Gotta love the mentality of government owned monopolies...

As for the dual box issue - I don't believe Freeview/Kordia/TVNZ have ever cared about that in the first place. If they had designed the network for the consumers we wouldn't be in a situation where we have one lot of channels over DVB-S and a different set on terrestial, and a HD network that only some of the country can access.


if they deliver the channel over dvb-s freeview, dont they also need to send MHEG information through with the channel in order for it to be on the freeivew platform?




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  #241108 31-Jul-2009 22:20
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Nate - The key reasons to have Prime on Freeview HD (dvb-t) are seeing all the detail in 16:9 (not the cut down 4:3 version) and the digital quality.

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  #241116 31-Jul-2009 23:14
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nate: Allow me to play devil's advocate here, and it's been discussed before (Prime getting onto Freeview), so why is it so important that Prime gets onto Freeview?
/doesn't watch much tv.


Prime is the last major channel not availble to Freeview customers. Freeview is the replacement for analogue TV. The faster all the channels are on all freeview systems the faster analogue can be switched off.

A lot of people know Prime is not on Freeview and thus consider Freeview an incomplete system that they can wait for. With all channels available and more coming Freeview starts to look like a complete system and will quickly become something people will want to have.

I had a friend ask my why I used freeview when all the Freeview channels are available on Sky...simpe answer to me...but he didn't know. $$$

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  #241124 1-Aug-2009 01:36
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JKRNZ: Nate - The key reasons to have Prime on Freeview HD (dvb-t) are seeing all the detail in 16:9 (not the cut down 4:3 version) and the digital quality.


Just because it is on Freeview HD does not mean it will be in 16:9 or in HD. I can well imagine that Sky will make the quality as crappy as possible, to give people an incentive to switch to Sky.

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  #241136 1-Aug-2009 07:29
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Fingers and Toes Crossed!!!




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