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Topic # 83568 18-May-2011 20:18
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Anyone got one of these?

http://www.dishtv.co.nz/Satellite-Receivers-satBox/11-DishTV-S7090-PVR-satBox-Ultra.htm

I need something with the wife friendly factor and this looks good but is very new....

Anyone have experience or opinions or a good place to buy one in Auckland.

Just want HD free view with sbs channels, ability to record and a bit of future proofing - oh and ease of use

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  Reply # 470896 19-May-2011 01:44
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There is no HD Freeview by satellite (other than via Sky, which is not free at all).

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  Reply # 470932 19-May-2011 08:31
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xarqi: There is no HD Freeview by satellite (other than via Sky, which is not free at all).


Has a full HD upscaler.

http://www.dishtv.co.nz/images/stories/Brochures/dishtv%20s7090pvr%20satbox%20ultra%20brochure.pdf

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 470936 19-May-2011 08:41
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Yeah but what xarqi is saying is the source is not HD and probably never will be on the satellite feed. 
The box does upscale though as you point out.   However

Thanks for pointing out that this box is out now though.  It's about time!
I have friends/parents/grand parents in areas that are not likely to ever receve terrestrial coverage and an approved box, whilst not loved by many tech people, does allow a solid basic and clear interface and series link features etc.  Would be interested to see what the price is?

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  Reply # 471072 19-May-2011 13:08
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Ought this unit get HD off TCN9 as well as from SBS? Wondering also ...$$$$??

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  Reply # 471082 19-May-2011 13:21
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http://www.freetv.co.nz/webapps/site/61418/52840/shopping/product-view.html?pid=574510

It's got some herbs being DVB-S2 capable.

Guess say $850 - $1250 range?

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  Reply # 471153 19-May-2011 15:28
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Some interesting features:
- series link;
- blind scan;
- MHEG-5;
- DVB-S2;
- 1080p - well - that's nice, but I'm not sure how significant or relevant it will be;

... but some limitations it seems from my reading of the specifications (so subject to correction):
- only able to record two services simultaneously (while viewing a third);
- no playback via LAN from a file server;
- no mention of streaming function to serve other devices on LAN;
- possible problems mentioned with decoding Sky;
- no provision for expansion of storage;
- unclear whether recorded files can be transferred from the box;
- tuners currently linked (but independence promised with a firmware fix).

If the $900+ figure is even close, I think this will have a lot of trouble competing with the Vu+ Duo. Last price I saw there was $740 for a 500GB unit.

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  Reply # 471192 19-May-2011 16:25
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Yeah I suspect we're about to see a weird fusion with the freeview approved units.

The bulk of the 'myfreeview' products for terrestrial are limited to tight freeview restrictions.

Some like the panasonic seem to get around this, in that they still use the MHEG5 PVR EPG but they can copy to disk etc.

Most/Some(?) of the freeview approved Sat units can be configured to tune in some other satellites/transponders etc so can you still be approved and use the ethernet interface on the sat service etc?

It's all a bit of a blur as to what is and what isn't allowed under the approved freeview status.  There seems to be exceptions to most things that undermine the standard response about why your unit can't do something it probably is capable of.

The official EPG with fully supported series link etc seems to be the main drawcard over any alternative PVR.

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  Reply # 471229 19-May-2011 18:00
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Good to see some discussion generated, a couple of additional points:

Price is 549NZD. Xquisite.co.nz

I read somewhere, but I can't remember where, that additional storage can be added.

Has anybody dealt with xquisite

So who is goin to buy one and give feed back? Me, probably

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  Reply # 471291 19-May-2011 20:38
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It doesn't matter how good or bad the Freeview approved satellite recorder is relative to the unapproved ones, people will just go and buy whatever is for sale at places like Noel Lemmings and Bond & Bond. Most people don't understand the difference between UHF and dishes, Freeview restrictions are just technobabble to the masses.

I've never seen xquisite before.

That price is below what the NZ wholesale price of the Vu+Duo is listed on Alibaba. It looks like two successor models to the Vu+Duo are being released soon but whether they are more than minor improvements I can't say.

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  Reply # 471469 20-May-2011 10:25
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I'd be weary of websites listing products well in advance of any one else. Often they don't even have the product from the supplier.

The Grey Electronics (was that the name) saga should attest to that with people looking to source a good deal on the Vu+ Duo.

That price is stunning though really for a dual tuner satellite unit that can do DVB-S2. Too good a price to be true?

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  Reply # 471905 21-May-2011 14:39
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GWF wrote:

Anyone got one of these?

http://www.dishtv.co.nz/Satellite-Receivers-satBox/11-DishTV-S7090-PVR-satBox-Ultra.htm
 
We have just received one of the non-HD versions - the S7010PVR.

Its user-interface as a PVR is fairly primitive - it is clearly a satellite tuner with USB/PVR bits added. For example you have to go through the setup menu to get to 'Advance Timer' which is how to enter future recordings without using the EPG. We have an older HDD recorder from LiteOn which has a better GUI.

Also the list of recordings is just a simple list (no folders or renaming or other organisation possible) and only channel and date are shown in the list.

As is plain from the pictures the USB socket is on the front so the cable to your disk drive will always be visible.

I do have one unresolved problem that someone may know the answer to:

When watching a recording there always seems to be a "Subtitles On" or "Subtitles Off" label on-screen that I cannot get rid of.

.....Any ideas......

Other than that it seems to be a functional box with good picture quality 

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  Reply # 471920 21-May-2011 15:13
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Afternoon all,

had a bit of a nose around this morning, the 7090pvr was in stock as recently as last week, Andy from xquisite, is coming back to me on availability on Monday, he also confirmed price at 549.

On a spur of the moment I walked into my local bond and bond during lunchie, they can order it if paid in advance for the princely sum of 499, will refund the lolly if it goes on a lengthy back order. Seemed too good to miss, so swiped the card & with a bit of luck should have it by next weekend.

Will keep you posted

Cheers

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  Reply # 472909 23-May-2011 12:19
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HowardA: the S7010PVR......Any ideas......


http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/ultraplus-700hdmi-digital-satellite-receiver-p-633.html

I have one of these and for a basic satellite box that can record it is doing very well.  It is cheap too and you can schedule recordings from the EPG.

Has hdmi out too.  It is only 567i output (SD) but my channels look better than on previous units that tried to upscale.

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  Reply # 472932 23-May-2011 13:08
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Jaxson:
HowardA: the S7010PVR......Any ideas......


http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/ultraplus-700hdmi-digital-satellite-receiver-p-633.html

I have one of these and for a basic satellite box that can record it is doing very well.  It is cheap too and you can schedule recordings from the EPG.

Has hdmi out too.  It is only 567i output (SD) but my channels look better than on previous units that tried to upscale.


I take it no series link?







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  Reply # 472939 23-May-2011 13:17
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Nety:
Jaxson:
http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/ultraplus-700hdmi-digital-satellite-receiver-p-633.html



I take it no series link?


Nope, as I understand it that's only really available on the official MHEG5 PVR EPG.

This EPG is EIT only, which means fast but with no series link.

The Ultra Plus 700hdmi has been working well for me given the price and features that I required.  I guess I could only recommend it based on that situation.  I tried it with my parents and it's just too noisy on the EPG etc for them to feel comfortable with it immediately so I still think an official box that could record would be the go for many customers.

The UP 700hdmi can do a lot of cool things, but to me the interface just wasn't immediately intuitive.  It has a cool slidy bar thing to navigate quickly through a recording, but to bring it up you have to press play a second time sort of thing....

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