Immigratiion CE didn't tell select committee $35m IT project had been axed

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wellygary

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#3505900 24-Jun-2026 16:06

MikeAqua:

Prior to that, he was DCE for Labour Science and Enterprise.

Gawd, sounds like the shotgun marriage of a Political party and a Spaceship...

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#3505905 24-Jun-2026 16:20

wellygary:

Gawd, sounds like the shotgun marriage of a Political party and a Spaceship...

I think the idea is to get business, employment and innovation policy settings aligned.

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#3505916 24-Jun-2026 16:47

wellygary:

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They don’t allow concessions on open loop cards , they should be only on closed loop makes the solution a lot easier to implement. Consessions are part funded by regional council and or government which makes reconciliation difficult

Agreed, Open loop for non concession fares is becoming pretty standard, some even do capping. But concessions usually require stored value or some form of registration (naturally)

I just wish they would actually get on and roll something out.

Its taken way to long GW should be this year. I think phase 2 of Ecan is going in soon . A lot of politics in the program

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#3505926 24-Jun-2026 18:47

Stu1:

Singapore has a good national system as well .

I'm sure you mean well, but saying Singapore has a national system is silly. They only have a single city so any city-wide system is by definition a national system. Which makes any comparison with almost another country pointless. If New Zealand was just an island with only Auckland we'd have have a national system 15+ years ago already. :)

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#3505927 24-Jun-2026 19:16

KiwiSurfer:

Stu1:

Singapore has a good national system as well .

I'm sure you mean well, but saying Singapore has a national system is silly. They only have a single city so any city-wide system is by definition a national system. Which makes any comparison with almost another country pointless. If New Zealand was just an island with only Auckland we'd have have a national system 15+ years ago already. :)

Singapore built its own solution and now handles around 7.5 million trips per day, making it one of the best real-world examples of what can work at scale. The only other comparable example is the Netherlands, and even there, coverage is not yet 100%. Most countries have never tried to implement a nationwide solution of this scope and complexity. The vendor cubic has delivered systems across the UK, the United States, and Australia, they have never implemented a single solution covering an entire country which is causing challenges.

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#3505942 24-Jun-2026 22:05

pdh: Can anyone remember a government IT project that went well ?

We’ve had a few at work that have cost a lot more for a similar result. When you are doing enterprise/government level deployments when they go wrong they go really wrong.

The difference between private industry and government failures is you hear about the governments ones. The private ones are quietly shuffled off and hidden from the shareholders.

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#3505943 24-Jun-2026 22:17

Handle9:We’ve had a few at work that have cost a lot more for a similar result. When you are doing enterprise/government level deployments when they go wrong they go really wrong.

The difference between private industry and government failures is you hear about the governments ones. The private ones are quietly shuffled off and hidden from the shareholders.

Yep, It's not just Governments who can waste money on IT projects. DHL had to write off €345 million due to their failed SAP project.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/1638280/sap-dont-blame-us-for-dhls-logistics-woes.html

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#3505944 24-Jun-2026 22:33

KiwiSurfer:

Stu1:

Singapore has a good national system as well .

I'm sure you mean well, but saying Singapore has a national system is silly. They only have a single city so any city-wide system is by definition a national system. Which makes any comparison with almost another country pointless. If New Zealand was just an island with only Auckland we'd have have a national system 15+ years ago already. :)

Its also had the same party in government for 67 years. It’s a wee bit of a different setup.

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