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#398170 31-Oct-2010 19:08

Ahhh, Swype is in the Applications section of the phone.

Can you try Clear Data to see if that makes a difference? Might be worth checking while you wait for the email to arrive.

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#398180 31-Oct-2010 19:26

I tried wiping everything to no avail. I just flashed stock JPO firmware and Swype works fine on that, however my Home button no longer goes back to Home when pressed and holding it down does not open the task switcher. Very odd.

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#398233 31-Oct-2010 21:21

Ok I ended up flashing JPO firmware using Odin (no reparition, no pit) and then flashed the SpeedMod Froyo Kernel which includes CWM and ULF as well as giving 340mb ram - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822756

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#398237 31-Oct-2010 21:28

I was seeing no lag on my SGS (Froyo JP6) at all until last night I ran Angry Birds for the first time. The phone has been lagging ever since.

I haven't re-booted the phone since. I will, but if that doesn't work I may uninstall the game....and if that doesn't work I may try another factory reset and avoid Angry Birds.

Amazing how running that one app one time can transform my phone into a semi-usable lag-fest.

UPDATE: Re-booting the phone sorted it out. But interesting the effects of running a game almost 24 hours ago were both significant and persistent.

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#398238 31-Oct-2010 21:30

lokhor: Tried wiping the dalvik-cache to no avail :( I can't live without Swype

I use SlideIt...and prefer it to Swype.

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#398249 31-Oct-2010 21:49

What is it about SlideIt you like better than Swype? Just curious. From memory it's not free so presumably it has something much better. Cheers

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#398261 31-Oct-2010 22:09

I was seeing no lag on my SGS (Froyo JP6) at all until last night I ran Angry Birds for the first time. The phone has been lagging ever since.

I haven't re-booted the phone since. I will, but if that doesn't work I may uninstall the game....and if that doesn't work I may try another factory reset and avoid Angry Birds.

Amazing how running that one app one time can transform my phone into a semi-usable lag-fest.

UPDATE: Re-booting the phone sorted it out. But interesting the effects of running a game almost 24 hours ago were both significant and persistent.

Were you running without a voodoo or ext based lag fix? e.g. stock build? If so, it's probably down to Samsung's crappy RFS more than anything else.

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#398271 31-Oct-2010 22:28

Neets: What is it about SlideIt you like better than Swype? Just curious. From memory it's not free so presumably it has something much better. Cheers

I used Swype first and liked it. Then the beta / registration / login hassles kept getting in my way so I tried SlideIt...and found that it was easier to use. I can turn the slide mode off esily for entering passwords or odd bits of text / numbers / caps as required.

Mainly it was a finished product and I could buy it and install it on anything and it just worked.

On the SGS Swypee seems to lag whereas SlideIt doesn't.

I don't worry about app prices. I can't buy a sandwich for what most apps cost...so don't even really look unless it's over US$15...and then I'll buy it anyway because I can refund it no questions asked from the Market within 24 hours.

I've probably spent an average of $40 / month on apps over the past 15 months.

I'm not using a lag fix at the mo as I want to see what affects lag and what helps avoid it.

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#398284 31-Oct-2010 23:20

I'm not using a lag fix at the mo as I want to see what affects lag and what helps avoid it.

That's what I suspected. I'm not using one at the moment either (I have in the past) as I also have been trying to learn more about the problem.

There was a post on XDA telling how the Samsung implementation of RFS continually corrupts itself. The corruption is minor but appears to degrade performance on the handset over a period of time. After rebooting the phone, the system runs a fsck and fixes the errors. This temporarily resolves the issue, which is why the phone works well after a reboot even without any lagfix installed.

It makes me wonder why Samsung haven't fixed this yet. I suspect that the Samsung engineers either don't have a good understanding of the problem (hence the continued optimisation without a fix for RFS) or their implementation of RFS is for a very valid reason that only they know internally.

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#398295 1-Nov-2010 00:54

Here is how Samsung describe their RFS filesystem:

"Samsung's RFS is an ideal flash software solution for Linux-based embedded system using OneNAND flash memory. It manages the flash media much stably and delivers the most optimized flash management functionalities for OneNAND flash memory. Samsung's RFS delivers superior read/write performance compared to the existing solutions."

So I guess it boils down to NIH syndrome (not invented here) more than anything else as we know that the performance is definitely not better.

Really hoping they do release the Nexus 2 for Google and that Google take over the main branch of development for Samsung's version of Android. I can dream.

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#398407 1-Nov-2010 10:37

Linuxluver:
Neets: What is it about SlideIt you like better than Swype? Just curious. From memory it's not free so presumably it has something much better. Cheers

I used Swype first and liked it. Then the beta / registration / login hassles kept getting in my way so I tried SlideIt...and found that it was easier to use. I can turn the slide mode off esily for entering passwords or odd bits of text / numbers / caps as required.

I tried SlideIt (free/demo) for a week but went back to Swype. Didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference to the lag. What I didn't like was the word suggestion/learning mechanism. Maybe it was me or the fact that it was a demo, but it didn't learn words like Swype does. It also doesn't have the punctuation etc available on long press on the keys like Swype, which I prefer to having to change keyboard set.

When it comes to entering passwords/text/numbers/caps, I don't see the need to 'turn off' slide mode on either keyboard? If you just starting pecking keys it works just like a normal keyboard, why turn off the slide mode?

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#398421 1-Nov-2010 11:02

n4:
Linuxluver:
Neets: What is it about SlideIt you like better than Swype? Just curious. From memory it's not free so presumably it has something much better. Cheers

I used Swype first and liked it. Then the beta / registration / login hassles kept getting in my way so I tried SlideIt...and found that it was easier to use. I can turn the slide mode off esily for entering passwords or odd bits of text / numbers / caps as required.

I tried SlideIt (free/demo) for a week but went back to Swype. Didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference to the lag. What I didn't like was the word suggestion/learning mechanism. Maybe it was me or the fact that it was a demo, but it didn't learn words like Swype does. It also doesn't have the punctuation etc available on long press on the keys like Swype, which I prefer to having to change keyboard set.

When it comes to entering passwords/text/numbers/caps, I don't see the need to 'turn off' slide mode on either keyboard? If you just starting pecking keys it works just like a normal keyboard, why turn off the slide mode?

I do the same n4, just tap the letters/characters I need rather than swipe for passwords.

I don't mind paying for good apps either, I've even made donations on the XDA forums, I just like to know that what I'm paying for provides me a better experience or tools/functionality that I like.

You're right, it's great you can get a refund in 24 hours for a paid app. Not that I've needed to use this so far.

Anyway, I'm using the Doc_Kalpik v6 ROM using the JPA web browser with the Dena theme and I'm loving it. No problems with Swype, but for all that, seems they've resolved the FC problems on V7 and one of the contributors is getting the Dena theme sorted for V7. I'll probably flash the new ROM after it's been bedded down a little more.

Last night I had 9% battery usage over 8 (and a bit) hours, the night prior it was 8% in 8 hours. Best battery usage overnight for me. I think the ROM is great.

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#398423 1-Nov-2010 11:09

I like swype and never change keyboards, for passwords etc I just peck as well.

I may try out a Doc_Kalpik rom once they have a stable JPO version. The JPO browser performance is a lot better than JP6.

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#398689 1-Nov-2010 18:08

if you peck type your password in a normal text field (eg. the txt messaging app) then your password will enter the dictionary and you can swype your password, or you can just put half your password into the dictionary and then peck the remaining 2 characters etc... obviously this is not very secure but it is very very convientent for passwords that are not too important.

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#399015 2-Nov-2010 10:39

If you have numbers in your password swype does not save it

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