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#2641333 25-Jan-2021 08:36

colinuu:
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Everyone wanted horrible Sky gone. The many anti Sky threads here. Cricket is off Sky. Still whining.

I think this is off topic for this thread.

The fact is that for a lot of rural people, their ability to enjoy cricket on TV has been taken away. It is either non-existent or non-affordable. This is the issue that I want NZC and SS to address.

With respect, I think it’s still on topic. Before, people complained about the cost of sky keeping people out. Now they’re complaining about lack of rural service keeping people out.

Different problem. Same result.

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#2641393 25-Jan-2021 09:24

I think I read in the news somewhere that some Spark Sport viewership numbers were out this week. Will be interesting

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#2641420 25-Jan-2021 10:14

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With respect, I think it’s still on topic. Before, people complained about the cost of sky keeping people out. Now they’re complaining about lack of rural service keeping people out.

Different problem. Same result.

With respect, it’s a different problem, same result.

Spark now has a monopoly on Black Caps cricket played in NZ, previously Sky had this monopoly. Rural people with Sky, a viable streaming channel, used to have the cricket. Now with the move to internet, there is no viable solution for those folks, and therefore there is a shutout.

With Sky, it was an affordability issue it seems like, but at least there was a viable channel for access. So it’s a different problem.

Kane Williamson’s club captain can’t see his own teammate play cricket in NZ because of the access issue for rural folks.

And affordability isn’t an issue either, since it’s, from memory $25-30 per month just for Spark sport and you don’t get rugby, so to watch cricket and rugby you need both Sky and Spark and that’s let’s say $80 p.m. instead of $55 for Sky alone.

Black Caps and All Blacks should be on free-to-air so everyone can watch them.

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#2641602 25-Jan-2021 12:22

Netflix has a monopoly as well. Like all the others. If Black Caps and AB's are free to air, where does their funding come from, the taxpayer? I'd suggest there are far far more non sport or non rugby or non cricket fans than fans. Does your suggestion apply to all sports in NZ? Taxpayers also pay for the overseas tours?

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#2641607 25-Jan-2021 12:29

tdgeek:

Netflix has a monopoly as well. Like all the others. If Black Caps and AB's are free to air, where does their funding come from, the taxpayer? I'd suggest there are far far more non sport or non rugby or non cricket fans than fans. Does your suggestion apply to all sports in NZ? Taxpayers also pay for the overseas tours?

yes, yes, and no.

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#2641665 25-Jan-2021 13:09

BlinkyBill:
SheriffNZ:

With respect, I think it’s still on topic. Before, people complained about the cost of sky keeping people out. Now they’re complaining about lack of rural service keeping people out.

Different problem. Same result.

With respect, it’s a different problem, same result.

Spark now has a monopoly on Black Caps cricket played in NZ, previously Sky had this monopoly. Rural people with Sky, a viable streaming channel, used to have the cricket. Now with the move to internet, there is no viable solution for those folks, and therefore there is a shutout.

With Sky, it was an affordability issue it seems like, but at least there was a viable channel for access. So it’s a different problem.

Kane Williamson’s club captain can’t see his own teammate play cricket in NZ because of the access issue for rural folks.

And affordability isn’t an issue either, since it’s, from memory $25-30 per month just for Spark sport and you don’t get rugby, so to watch cricket and rugby you need both Sky and Spark and that’s let’s say $80 p.m. instead of $55 for Sky alone.

Black Caps and All Blacks should be on free-to-air so everyone can watch them.

We've been through this before.

When sports first went to sky is wasnt satellite based so rural people didnt get it either...

Things change. Eventually rural Internet will get better.

I suspect more nz kids can't watch cricket because of costs rather than Internet capacity.

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#2641669 25-Jan-2021 13:23

BlinkyBill:

tdgeek:

Netflix has a monopoly as well. Like all the others. If Black Caps and AB's are free to air, where does their funding come from, the taxpayer? I'd suggest there are far far more non sport or non rugby or non cricket fans than fans. Does your suggestion apply to all sports in NZ? Taxpayers also pay for the overseas tours?

yes, yes, and no.

Ok, you want all NZ sport taxpayer funded, sorta like Socialist Sport. When this came up in the Sky bashing threads, no way will taxpayers fund sport, there are way too many of them compared to sports watchers. While we have many in NZ asking for Govt help for food, housing, roads, etc etc they pay for our sport? Don't think so. I think that overseas tours are a burden. The rights are heavily in favour of the home country and its very costly to tour, so someone needs to be funding these.

Maybe TVNZ can do a rural PPV and Spark and TVNZ share that revenue?

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#2641673 25-Jan-2021 13:31

BlinkyBill:

so to watch cricket and rugby you need both Sky and Spark and that’s let’s say $80 p.m. instead of $55 for Sky alone.

Sky used to be $80-$100 when it had all the sports.

And now you only need Spark Sport for 4 months of the year to watch cricket. That averages out to around $63 a month ((55*12)+(4*25))/12

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For that article about Kane Williamson's club captain, i dont think they could have picked a more useless example. The guy even says that he goes to his Dad's place who has rural broadband and he "struggles through" and that he uses his Dad's account to watch a "dismal highlights package". I bet it works fine and he has set his mind to complain about it from the start.

Seems like he's the same as almost every other farmer/boomer/technology-phobe on facebook and newstalk zb who dont want to even make a half assed attempt at getting spark/their internet set up properly.

Has anyone here used rural-broadband? Is it as awful and archaic as some of them are making it out to be? A quick google tells me they should be able to get up to 36 mbps which is way more than the 10mbps that spark says is required.

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#2641686 25-Jan-2021 14:04

Billyspleen75:

Has anyone here used rural-broadband? Is it as awful and archaic as some of them are making it out to be? A quick google tells me they should be able to get up to 36 mbps which is way more than the 10mbps that spark says is required.

You may have missed the point, its not the speed thats the issue its data caps. From a quick squizz round the major players nobody in NZ does unlimited rural broadband. Most common household plans are 120Gb to 200Gb which if you already have a fairly tech savvy family watching 50-100 hours of cricket a month is going to ruin your plan.

Fwiw 120Gb is $96 a month on Vodafone

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#2641687 25-Jan-2021 14:10

Spark should zero-rate streaming Spark sports on its rural broadband plans - not good for net neutrality but one solution to the problem

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#2641706 25-Jan-2021 15:07

JPNZ:

Billyspleen75:

Has anyone here used rural-broadband? Is it as awful and archaic as some of them are making it out to be? A quick google tells me they should be able to get up to 36 mbps which is way more than the 10mbps that spark says is required.

You may have missed the point, its not the speed thats the issue its data caps. From a quick squizz round the major players nobody in NZ does unlimited rural broadband. Most common household plans are 120Gb to 200Gb which if you already have a fairly tech savvy family watching 50-100 hours of cricket a month is going to ruin your plan.

Fwiw 120Gb is $96 a month on Vodafone

Yeah, that's fair that the data will get chomped through rather quickly. But the main complaint from many i have seen on FB/radio is that the quality is poor. The guy in the article was saying his dad "struggles through" the streaming, which points to quality rather than "Dad does fine for 2 weeks then has no data left" If you think there is no issue with the quality, it probably adds to my suspicion that most of the folk complaining are jumping on a bandwagon, rather than giving it a fair shot themselves.

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#2641712 25-Jan-2021 15:32

For those interested, Duke has the Wellington v Canterbury T20 Super smash live at the moment.

Also had yesterday's game as well.

EDIT: Story release from Spark back in October 2019 did say 2 regular season men's and women's Super smash games per week on FTA

https://www.sparknz.co.nz/news/Spark-expands-sport-offering-securing-New-Zealand-Cricket-rights/

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#2641725 25-Jan-2021 16:00

Billyspleen75:

Yeah, that's fair that the data will get chomped through rather quickly. But the main complaint from many i have seen on FB/radio is that the quality is poor. The guy in the article was saying his dad "struggles through" the streaming, which points to quality rather than "Dad does fine for 2 weeks then has no data left" If you think there is no issue with the quality, it probably adds to my suspicion that most of the folk complaining are jumping on a bandwagon, rather than giving it a fair shot themselves.

I don't agree with your assertion at all. I'm not complaining about quality, it's the high price of data that's the problem. We have a 200GB plan that costs us $170 per month. With family at home who like to stream Netflix & Youtube etc, that doesn't go very far. A 5 day cricket test would totally blow it away, and we would be paying an extra $1.50 per GB for overage data. You urban guys with unlimited data have no concept of these restraints.

And by the way, I don't have a problem with SS having the broadcast rights, we could probably afford the $25 pm during the cricket season. But SS have not made any effort to get the data out to rural subscribers at a reasonable price, and NZC don't appear to care! Not a great way to treat your previously loyal customers in my view.

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#2641737 25-Jan-2021 16:20

WyleECoyoteNZ:

For those interested, Duke has the Wellington v Canterbury T20 Super smash live at the moment.

Also had yesterday's game as well.

EDIT: Story release from Spark back in October 2019 did say 2 regular season men's and women's Super smash games per week on FTA

And those are the only games I've watched, despite having a Spark Sport subscription (I got it coz it's the only legal way to watch F1)

Watching cricket streamed & Chromecast from a tablet to the TV is just not a fun experience

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#2641745 25-Jan-2021 16:29

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And those are the only games I've watched, despite having a Spark Sport subscription (I got it coz it's the only legal way to watch F1)

Watching cricket streamed & Chromecast from a tablet to the TV is just not a fun experience

Ive got an ATV4 and its plays perfectly. Ive long given up on what its playing on, as like my other streaming services it works really well. Id look into that as aside from the seamless quality, its a good platform as well, all the apps are on it. Not pushing Apple, just pushing how well it and SS run on it

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