2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2641167 24-Jan-2021 19:05

chatterbox: I do wish they’d presented for testing earlier though.

Thats the first thing I thought. If I was in MIQ, any symptom no matter how small has to be tested. High risk situation. But other than that she does seem to have been meticulous.

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#2641172 24-Jan-2021 19:22

There's always the manual entry if you can't be bothered queuing to scan.

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#2641177 24-Jan-2021 19:44

If you get your phone out and open the app as you are walking toward the store most scan as you walk toward the code, only some have trouble and need me to wave my phone about the place to get it to scan.

Its not that hard and doesnt need to slow people down enough to make a que.

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#2641180 24-Jan-2021 19:45

There are no possible acceptable excuses.

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#2641209 24-Jan-2021 20:47

Daynger:

If you get your phone out and open the app as you are walking toward the store most scan as you walk toward the code, only some have trouble and need me to wave my phone about the place to get it to scan.

Its not that hard and doesnt need to slow people down enough to make a que.

Some posters out there are so poorly done (or were set up well originally but have since sustained damage e.g. water, fading, rips etc) my phone's QR code struggles to capture the code. Some posters out there have literally needed a good 20-30 secs of figuring out the best position to capture the code. Can understand why some people have given up given some of the increasingly shoddy QR posters out there. Perhaps there needs to be a push for businesses to ensure their QR codes are easy to scan giving them tips on setting up and (the oft forgotten) maintaining their posters. Simple stuff like replacing QR code posters when they have faded to almost nothing etc. I'd estimate about a quarter of my QR scans lately have involved quite a bit of effort (not just waving).

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#2641216 24-Jan-2021 21:25

tdgeek:

chatterbox: I do wish they’d presented for testing earlier though.

Thats the first thing I thought. If I was in MIQ, any symptom no matter how small has to be tested. High risk situation. But other than that she does seem to have been meticulous.

It is a tough one. They did mention this at the standup, and passed it off as being normal not to have thought too much about it. But this appears to be an outlier case, or they got infected during isolation. I hope they get to the bottom of it. I saw one of the experts on TV tonight, and they were saying that the hotels aren't really designed to be used as MIQ, and we should probably be reducing the number of people coming in from covid hotspots as the situation only gets worse overseas. I do think we need to be more cautious as the numbers coming in, including those with historic cases seems to increase. Also this new strain is apparently not only more contagious, but also may have a higher mortality rate, as mentioned here https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-55773402

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#2641217 24-Jan-2021 21:27

KiwiSurfer:

Daynger:

If you get your phone out and open the app as you are walking toward the store most scan as you walk toward the code, only some have trouble and need me to wave my phone about the place to get it to scan.

Its not that hard and doesnt need to slow people down enough to make a que.

Some posters out there are so poorly done (or were set up well originally but have since sustained damage e.g. water, fading, rips etc) my phone's QR code struggles to capture the code. Some posters out there have literally needed a good 20-30 secs of figuring out the best position to capture the code. Can understand why some people have given up given some of the increasingly shoddy QR posters out there. Perhaps there needs to be a push for businesses to ensure their QR codes are easy to scan giving them tips on setting up and (the oft forgotten) maintaining their posters. Simple stuff like replacing QR code posters when they have faded to almost nothing etc. I'd estimate about a quarter of my QR scans lately have involved quite a bit of effort (not just waving).

When there is a reflection on the glass, it also doesn't scan easily. Some stores need more posters from what I have seen, both inside and out. A really big mat poster inside should make it easy. Some android phones have pretty crap cameras and scanning isn't that easy on those, as I was out with my father and the camera on his Nokia has trouble scanning.

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#2641220 24-Jan-2021 21:36

Have you talked to someone in store when you find a poster that is hard to read - behind glass/sliding door, positioned where there is too much sun/reflection, etc?

If there is a problem, help solving it?

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#2641235 24-Jan-2021 22:17

KiwiSurfer:

Some posters out there are so poorly done (or were set up well originally but have since sustained damage e.g. water, fading, rips etc) my phone's QR code struggles to capture the code. Some posters out there have literally needed a good 20-30 secs of figuring out the best position to capture the code. Can understand why some people have given up given some of the increasingly shoddy QR posters out there. Perhaps there needs to be a push for businesses to ensure their QR codes are easy to scan giving them tips on setting up and (the oft forgotten) maintaining their posters. Simple stuff like replacing QR code posters when they have faded to almost nothing etc. I'd estimate about a quarter of my QR scans lately have involved quite a bit of effort (not just waving).

I grumbled about this constantly. Until i got a new phone in december, and all those crappy qr codes suddenly scanned instantly. It was my phone, not the code.

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#2641280 24-Jan-2021 23:05

Not what we needed to hear 4 weeks out from our wedding. Cue a bit of panic about new lockdowns etc before the press conference.

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#2641281 24-Jan-2021 23:10

I better not get stuck up here in a regional lockdown!

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#2641284 24-Jan-2021 23:41

CYaBro: I better not get stuck up here in a regional lockdown!

Given quite a few of the visited locations were in the Auckland region, and the likely source MIQ facility were in Auckland (pending proof from sequencing), if there were to be a lockdown I would expect it to be northland and Auckland regions.

Personally I would be considering putting the whole of the north island into level 2 for a week to minimize the risk of spread while contact tracing and testing is being done. Sorry to the person with a wedding planned.

But given the government is already assuming this is one of the more contagious strains, and it has come from managed isolation, it doesn't seem likely we will see a lockdown unless either the assumption of coming from MIQ or neatherlands family is disproven (meaning it might have been caught locally), or we see a whole bunch of infections springing up.

Seems like this has been caught fairly eairly which is nice.

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#2641307 25-Jan-2021 06:45

That's a lot of places in a short period of time. I'm not super optimistic tbh.

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#2641308 25-Jan-2021 06:46

mattwnz:

I saw one of the experts on TV tonight, and they were saying that the hotels aren't really designed to be used as MIQ, and we should probably be reducing the number of people coming in from covid hotspots as the situation only gets worse overseas.

There are pretty much no hotspots, as almost everywhere is as bad. Hong Kong, the oft mentioned best in class here its now taking off. If we reduce numbers, who do we choose? You or me? Next time around I imagine we will set up places that if and when we get Covid 3, they get used. Purpose built or modified, and in the interim the get used for normal business, but they are there for a better MIQ next time. That option doesn't exist at the moment.

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#2641315 25-Jan-2021 07:34

Perhaps MIQ needs to be, that you are locked in the hotel rooms, no going outside. Given the gravity of Covid, and a hotel room is hardly uncomfortable, its a small sacrifice to be part of Covid free NZ. Smoke on a balcony or bathroom. Keep stocks of exercycles for those that want one. Food is provided, internet, TV. Make the only contact being for tests. No need to have maids cleaning up daily, you do it at home, do it at the hotel room. Make your own breakfast, get supplied lunch and dinner or make your own if you wish to.

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