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  #2668354 5-Mar-2021 16:11
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Akl level 2 6am Sunday

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  #2668356 5-Mar-2021 16:14
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Batman: Akl level 2 6am Sunday

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Hospitality industry will love that.  Given 5 days with zero cases it seems strange not to drop level earlier


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  #2668358 5-Mar-2021 16:25
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Batman: Akl level 2 6am Sunday

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So bunnings on sunday then...





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  #2668468 5-Mar-2021 17:08
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The Washington Post - Those fever scanners that everyone is using to fight covid can be wildly inaccurate, researchers find

 

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A flood of thermal scanners hit the market last year with promises to detect the signs of possible infection. 

 

But many of the devices use software that can make a feverish person appear perfectly well. ...

 

The thermal cameras and “temperature tablet” kiosks have been heralded as a critical first line of defense against new pandemic outbreaks. 

 

But in a new study of the scanners by the surveillance research organization IPVM, researchers warn that the tools are dangerously ineffective, raising the risk that infected people could be waved through medical screening checkpoints and go on to spread the virus unchecked. ...

 

The FDA says in official guidelines that thermal scanners are “not effective at determining if someone definitively has covid-19”; that they “have not been shown to be accurate when used to take the temperature of multiple people at the same time”; that their accuracy depends heavily on “careful set-up and operation”; and that “their effectiveness as part of efforts to reduce the spread of disease has been mixed.” ...

 





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The Washington Post - Those fever scanners that everyone is using to fight covid can be wildly inaccurate, researchers find


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A flood of thermal scanners hit the market last year with promises to detect the signs of possible infection. 


But many of the devices use software that can make a feverish person appear perfectly well. ...


The thermal cameras and “temperature tablet” kiosks have been heralded as a critical first line of defense against new pandemic outbreaks. 


But in a new study of the scanners by the surveillance research organization IPVM, researchers warn that the tools are dangerously ineffective, raising the risk that infected people could be waved through medical screening checkpoints and go on to spread the virus unchecked. ...


The FDA says in official guidelines that thermal scanners are “not effective at determining if someone definitively has covid-19”; that they “have not been shown to be accurate when used to take the temperature of multiple people at the same time”; that their accuracy depends heavily on “careful set-up and operation”; and that “their effectiveness as part of efforts to reduce the spread of disease has been mixed.” ...




That's super obvious. Skin temperature and core temperature are not the same.

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  #2668532 5-Mar-2021 18:10
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shk292:

 

Hospitality industry will love that.  Given 5 days with zero cases it seems strange not to drop level earlier

 

 

Complaints, criticism, political-isms. Instead of doing whats statistically sensible, factor in the clickbait and minimise that


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  #2668536 5-Mar-2021 18:15
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Batman:
That's super obvious. Skin temperature and core temperature are not the same.

 

You are a doctor, as is everyone else? No, its not super obvious. Thats why we rely on Facebook for facts.I mean the news journo's....   Oops.'If we had a news channel that offered facts, not clicks, many may be more aware. But what the populous are exposed to is facts, lies, fake opinion, political bias, facts. They cannot filter that


 
 
 

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@tdgeek Covid sounds serious and all... but with all these facts that you suggest putting in the media, how will I find out about the PM’s baby or the shocking new revelation about prince Harry?

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cokemaster: @tdgeek Covid sounds serious and all... but with all these facts that you suggest putting in the media, how will I find out about the PM’s baby or the shocking new revelation about prince Harry?

;)

 

Mate, when I reduced my Kardashians feed by 50%, I picked up more facts. Worked for me :-)  (Its back to 66.66% now, a nice balance..../s )


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  #2668564 5-Mar-2021 20:22
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The Kardashians have probably killed more people than Covid combined ;) 





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  #2668576 5-Mar-2021 20:46
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cokemaster:

 

The Kardashians have probably killed more people than Covid combined ;) 

 

 

The Kardashians don't kill people; they just make them wish they were dead.

 

 





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  #2668739 6-Mar-2021 10:30
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tdgeek:

 

shk292:

 

Hospitality industry will love that.  Given 5 days with zero cases it seems strange not to drop level earlier

 

 

Complaints, criticism, political-isms. Instead of doing whats statistically sensible, factor in the clickbait and minimise that

 

 

I made the mistake of listening to talk radio on a drive yesterday. The radio "personality" was all "Why didn't we change the levels immediately? We don't have any covid cases today, we didn't need lockdown because there was no outbreak."

 

I couldn't understand that logic.





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freitasm:I made the mistake of listening to talk radio on a drive yesterday. The radio "personality" was all "Why didn't we change the levels immediately? We don't have any covid cases today, we didn't need lockdown because there was no outbreak."

 

I couldn't understand that logic.

 

You answered your own question.


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freitasm:

 

I made the mistake of listening to talk radio on a drive yesterday. The radio "personality" was all "Why didn't we change the levels immediately? We don't have any covid cases today, we didn't need lockdown because there was no outbreak."

 

I couldn't understand that logic.

 

 

Why not? Since going into lockdown there have been no community cases, Going into lockdown at the drop of hat is starting to wear thin. How many more times do you think can do lockdowns with no big outbreaks before no one takes any notice? 

 

I hope I am wrong but I can see at least another 2 lockdowns for Auckland this year.

 

 

 

 


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@Jas777:

 

freitasm:

 

I made the mistake of listening to talk radio on a drive yesterday. The radio "personality" was all "Why didn't we change the levels immediately? We don't have any covid cases today, we didn't need lockdown because there was no outbreak."

 

I couldn't understand that logic.

 

 

Why not? Since going into lockdown there have been no community cases, Going into lockdown at the drop of hat is starting to wear thin. How many more times do you think can do lockdowns with no big outbreaks before no one takes any notice? 

 

I hope I am wrong but I can see at least another 2 lockdowns for Auckland this year.

 

 

Or perhaps there were no big outbreaks exactly because we had the lockdown? 





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