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  #2444520 23-Mar-2020 13:54
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neb: For those who aren't familiar with this particular euphemism, it was previously known as printing more money. It's OK as long as it's kept in check...

 

thanks i was wondering what that was

 

 

Here's the best explanation I've seen of quantitative easing, at least as performed in the US. It's only a few minutes long.



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  #2444525 23-Mar-2020 13:56
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freitasm:

 

Schools closed from tomorrow - except for kids of essentials workers for planning. Closing from Wednesday evening.

 

Bars, cafes, restaurants - including takeaways should close.

 

Theatres, cinemas and events (indoors and outdoors) to close.

 

 

This is a four-week lockdown.





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  #2444526 23-Mar-2020 13:58
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so can tourists leave? (at level 4, seeing flights are full in the next 24 hrs)




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  #2444527 23-Mar-2020 13:59
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dejadeadnz:


We are so not managing the risk okay. And NZ doesn't have constitutional supremacy. Parliament can pass a law to close the borders now and, frankly, they should.


 



Thats your opinion not fact, re management. Unless the MoH are inept.


I admire your confidence in the MoH, which I don't share. My interactions with the MoH, as opposed to DHBs, haven't helped.

Nevertheless, I agree that management of incoming cases has been good... we do NOT have widespread CT. I suggest that Kiwis returning to NZ to escape the pandemic are very likely to comply, and that what CT we have is likely to be from tourists. The media has numerous examples of their disregard of the isolation requirements.

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  #2444530 23-Mar-2020 14:12
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frankv:
I admire your confidence in the MoH, which I don't share. My interactions with the MoH, as opposed to DHBs, haven't helped.

Nevertheless, I agree that management of incoming cases has been good... we do NOT have widespread CT. I suggest that Kiwis returning to NZ to escape the pandemic are very likely to comply, and that what CT we have is likely to be from tourists. The media has numerous examples of their disregard of the isolation requirements.

 

Yes, our own people and tourists have forced the Govt to babysit them, to the detriment of ourselves and the vulnerable


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  #2444532 23-Mar-2020 14:19
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The one glaring weakness of the support package is the refusal to freeze all rent and mortgage payments full stop. We need the lenders to take a haircut for a month to maximise everyone's compliance. 


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  #2444533 23-Mar-2020 14:19
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frankv:
I admire your confidence in the MoH, which I don't share. My interactions with the MoH, as opposed to DHBs, haven't helped.

Nevertheless, I agree that management of incoming cases has been good... we do NOT have widespread CT. I suggest that Kiwis returning to NZ to escape the pandemic are very likely to comply, and that what CT we have is likely to be from tourists. The media has numerous examples of their disregard of the isolation requirements.

 

i cannot share that view that it's mainly tourists sorry, everyone has been very casual about this, residents and non residents.


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  #2444534 23-Mar-2020 14:24
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Prof Michael Baker (Otago) response when asked what he thought of the lockdown on a RNZ interview now:

 

"Overjoyed"


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  #2444539 23-Mar-2020 14:29
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Fred99:

Prof Michael Baker (Otago) response when asked what he thought of the lockdown on a RNZ interview now:

 

"Overjoyed"

 

 

That sums up how I feel about this too. Really pleased the government is being this proactive. I dreaded they would be too slow and we'd be screwed and face tens of thousands of deaths.

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  #2444544 23-Mar-2020 14:33
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dejadeadnz:

 

The one glaring weakness of the support package is the refusal to freeze all rent and mortgage payments full stop. We need the lenders to take a haircut for a month to maximise everyone's compliance. 

 

 

every company is taking a loss for the people except the bank


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  #2444545 23-Mar-2020 14:33
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Few areas could have been stronger and clearer...

 

Go check on your neighbours - More risk of infection, particularly if elderly...

 

No Roadblocks to stop people moving around the country...

 

 

 

Feels like they wanted to do Level 4 but didn't have the legal power to do so...





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  #2444546 23-Mar-2020 14:34
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is postal/courier services continuing or stopping 4 weeks?


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  #2444549 23-Mar-2020 14:36
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I really didn't expect a lock down for another few weeks at least credit to the government for being proactive and not reactive like so many other governments. Hopefully this has saved us from a lot of heartache.





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  #2444550 23-Mar-2020 14:37
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Have to admit that I got a bit emotional watching the PM's press conference. Its a very sad time for NZ and the world.

 

 


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  #2444551 23-Mar-2020 14:37
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Batman:

 

is postal/courier services continuing or stopping 4 weeks?

 

 

 

 

I assumed they would be under "essential" service?





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