2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2445627 24-Mar-2020 17:47

Dingbatt:

So Level 4 restrictions start at 2359 tomorrow.

Any bets how long it is before the first reports of people flouting the rules? Not people just trying to get home, but deliberately ignoring what they are supposed to do.

I have some faith in human nature, so I’ll say a week.

One hour.

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#2445631 24-Mar-2020 17:52

Total and utter dropkick alert:

Retailers call for clarity on what counts as essential

"There is a much broader range of stores providing essential goods to New Zealanders.

"There is a range of speciality grocers, food stores and convenience stores that people may not class as supermarkets but which are nonetheless a key means of delivering food to New Zealanders. These stores should also be exempt from any closure requirements," Harford said.

"Finally, there is a range of other stores that provide supplies that are essential to the maintenance and operation of households, as well as the health and wellbeing of New Zealanders.

"These include hardware stores, garden stores, especially for fruit and vegetable plants, appliance stores, specialty trade stores and the like," he said.

The "Harford" that is quoted in this rather poorly written article is Greg Harford, the CEO of Retail NZ. In these times of life and death, apparently going to the garden centre is essential. Who cares if anyone's whole garden is ruined? It's not worth the health or life of one person. The only way there can be confusion over this is if a business is trying to open, when the presumptive approach should be to shut. We don't need great varieties of food -- society and parliament has already decided that staples from established supermarkets, essential utilities, medicine, and other basic things are all that we need. If you have to eat without some fancy sauce, get the hell over yourself.

/rant over.

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#2445635 24-Mar-2020 18:02

neb: Could we re-open the gun thread, specifically for this guy? I think in this case it's justified.

Just don't buy stuff from his crap store with the annoying screaming commercials. Anything. Strangle his business. Put him out of it.

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#2445640 24-Mar-2020 18:10

They're allowing flights to continue so people can get home until Friday

I dunno. Shelter in place with support from the govt I think seems safer.

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#2445641 24-Mar-2020 18:10

What the hell do you do with a farmer over 80 who employs hands mostly well over 70 who wants them to shear sheep tomorrow? Is sheep farming 'essential'? Does that extend to the age of the workers? Even sheep raised for meat have to be shorn. This affects me personally. How do you make sense of these kinds of situations?

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#2445642 24-Mar-2020 18:11

I was at Bunnings earlier today. Jesus H. Christ it was nuts in there. Everyone's buying things for this imminent very long weekend.

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#2445643 24-Mar-2020 18:17

I just can't understand it. The whole point of this is to prevent people coming in contact with one another and spreading it. eg no mass gatherings of people. The virus doesn't understand dates and deadlines.

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#2445645 24-Mar-2020 18:20

I assume that because a lot of people will be stuck at home they're capitalising on that and plan on some DIY projects that otherwise won't get done. I can't blame them for that.

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#2445647 24-Mar-2020 18:21

Got directed to a discussion thread somewhere, which seems to be made up mostly of US people, who are "90% certain it's all a hoax" and similar sentiments. I feel sorry for US citzens in general, but I think at least a fair-sized chunk of them have exactly the leader they deserve.

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#2445648 24-Mar-2020 18:21

The sensible thing might have been to close Bunnings and Mitre10 etc down a day earlier without warning to prevent this.

Being forewarned just increased the risk by forcing people together.

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#2445651 24-Mar-2020 18:38

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding : Ice cream man , Ice cream man

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#2445653 24-Mar-2020 18:45

gchiu:

The sensible thing might have been to close Bunnings and Mitre10 etc down a day earlier without warning to prevent this.

Being forewarned just increased the risk by forcing people together.

Yeah, I was going to go to The Warehouse today to get some arts and crafts type things for our 2 year old daughter to keep her entertained now that preschool is closed.. but then I thought there'll probably be hoards of people going there so opted to stay home instead

Will just have to make do with what we already have

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#2445661 24-Mar-2020 18:55

Red shed tv campaign has even been made

Here for our essential needs. From Groceries to BoardGames apparently

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#2445662 24-Mar-2020 18:57

Fourpeak:
Surprised to see Chorus Still intend to carry out Fibre installs, Surely getting Upgraded to Fibre cant be a essential service. especially if you already have a intact copper or wireless service.

Internet is deemed an essential service. One could argue copper isn't always right.

There are a ton of essential businesses out there now requiring more network build to support nz through this.

Based on what I've seen in order volumes a ton of folk are also very keen to ensure no congestion occurs.

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#2445663 24-Mar-2020 19:07

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120512908/coronavirus-pm-says-government-looking-into-quarantining-returning-kiwis

So, Govt is considering quarantining (enforced) returning citizens.

Maybe that they should also consider this for anyone arriving from a city in NZ where infection has been confirmed

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