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#2547973 23-Aug-2020 09:27

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Went to the bakery and there were people infront of the QR when I left so I went to do a manual checkin when I was back in the car. No list to choose from just somewhere that I had to type the name of the place into. Doesnt seem very useful to me.

I find the manual entry function really usefully since when I visit a location with no bar code for example visiting relatives and friends etc I can enter their name which is far simpler than using location search service such as google if that is what you meant

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#2548646 24-Aug-2020 11:42

On Saturday night I was on the train and saw another passenger trying repeatedly to scan one of the QR code posters in the carriage. Eventually she gave up, but I noticed that the poster was stuck on a surface that wasn't entirely flush and I wondered if that was the reason.

This morning when I was on the train again I tried scanning a poster stuck in the exact same location and it worked fine first time.

I have an iPhone and the other passenger on Saturday night appeared to have something different so it seems as if the app performs better on certain makes/models of phone.

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#2548667 24-Aug-2020 12:00

alasta:

On Saturday night I was on the train and saw another passenger trying repeatedly to scan one of the QR code posters in the carriage. Eventually she gave up, but I noticed that the poster was stuck on a surface that wasn't entirely flush and I wondered if that was the reason.

This morning when I was on the train again I tried scanning a poster stuck in the exact same location and it worked fine first time.

I have an iPhone and the other passenger on Saturday night appeared to have something different so it seems as if the app performs better on certain makes/models of phone.

Certainly.

Curve = no (distorts the depth of the QR so much it can't CRC check :/ )

Cruddy camera, less accuracy.

Pointed out earlier, they made one of the highest level QRs. And as a result it's super fussy and requires quite a constraint to read. Bit of an irreversible early oops it seems.

It's also not clear from what I can see, when it comes to manual entry. If there is likely to be an alert push capability. Or if that is where it simply becomes the 'digital diary' aspect it's marketed for.

There is no GPS assist, nor lookup for exact profile/name. So one can only assume unless they do a %name% blanket alert for partial match with the REAL company name mentioned (and panic wayyyy to many for the likes of 'takeaway') - it will be simply a reference diary to fall back on.

There is still a tonne of complaints about how 'hopeless' it is online. I don't feel the FAQs (that I'm sure no-one reads anyway) address enough of the issues in the playstore reviews. Only some (PW complexity reasoning for instance). The biggest gripe still being switching out for activation fail, and 30 day or update logout

Though general public also keep seeing it as an end-all requirement due the way it has been mentioned so much in Media and so on. Which in a way, it is. We are required to track movements in lvl2/3 - But everyone seems to forget it's only 1 tool. It just happens to be the preferred due to the quicker way for consolidated alerting.

But of another damned if you do damned if you don't scenario. It's one thing to point and claim it's hopeless/no good to anyone and give up on it. But guessing there will also be a bunch of people complain about not being alerted to hotspots as quick (Bus riders good example. Card zappers found fast, manual ones are still unknown)

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#2548682 24-Aug-2020 12:34

If people are finding scanning QR codes an issue whether due to the codes being not well placed or perhaps variations in cameras compare that to the following technical short coming of the ($100M+) CovidCard

According to of the Dean Armstrong (CE of the CovidCard developers) "a drawback of not having the cards worn at about the same height was that they could then under-record the significance of brief, very close contacts, because the faces of the cards which housed their radio antennas could then be at an acute angle"

In short CovidCard may have issues with not worn correctly

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#2548688 24-Aug-2020 12:47

Was surprised this morning that the Church Corner Medical Centre (Christchurch) only has the QR code posters in the waiting areas.

Why not on the outside? (Either side of the Entry / Exit doors?)

You have to queue, pass 20 questions etc before you even get to reception.

As an example, if you are called before sitting in a waiting room = No QR code.

If only asking reception re an appointment to be made = No QR code.

How many people queued etc did you have "close contact" with?

Were you really there?

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#2548693 24-Aug-2020 12:58

They clearly skipped the readme that comes with poster.

Doesn't quite make up for the stores going overboard either.
In a clear and accessable place like a front window I believe it states

Even malls (sorry akl) have a main, and internal stores worried they're non compliant have individual ones.

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#2548765 24-Aug-2020 14:52

Oblivian:
Even malls (sorry akl) have a main, and internal stores worried they're non compliant have individual ones.

doesnt that narrow things down a bit? 1000 people into the mall, only 50 into the shop?

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#2548784 24-Aug-2020 15:20

Jase2985:

Oblivian:
Even malls (sorry akl) have a main, and internal stores worried they're non compliant have individual ones.

doesnt that narrow things down a bit? 1000 people into the mall, only 50 into the shop?

Correct. Merely responding to the health industry that has them INSIDE. There are others making a point of compliance vs that

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#2549215 25-Aug-2020 08:24

Oblivian:

Even malls (sorry akl) have a main, and internal stores worried they're non compliant have individual ones.

My father visited a mall in Christchurch and dutifully scanned the QR at the main entrance as well as each shop that he visited. When he got home he checked the history and found that some of the shops seem to have just replicated the mall's QR code as his history showed him entering the mall multiple times where it should have shown each shop!

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#2549228 25-Aug-2020 09:01

MurrayM:

Oblivian:

Even malls (sorry akl) have a main, and internal stores worried they're non compliant have individual ones.

My father visited a mall in Christchurch and dutifully scanned the QR at the main entrance as well as each shop that he visited. When he got home he checked the history and found that some of the shops seem to have just replicated the mall's QR code as his history showed him entering the mall multiple times where it should have shown each shop!

Now that, I hadn't considered. It also seems to depend on what you put in if you generated it yourself. I know of 2 businesses I've been to that ended up the company name showing as either the accountant who approved it, or just the st address.

In this case. I wonder if they have cheated to ensure coverage. Or it's the way it was entered has truncated to the site location xxxx store, 'x Mall'

You can click them for additional details and see if the GIN differs

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#2549990 26-Aug-2020 13:12

Your wishes answered

QRs going on public transport. Unable to enforce scanning of them. And not asking operators to police.

Rather than broad panic, Not quite sure how that's going to work. Unless they code them for specific route IDs

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#2549993 26-Aug-2020 13:18

Oblivian:

Your wishes answered

QRs going on public transport. Unable to enforce scanning of them. And not asking operators to police.

Rather than broad panic, Not quite sure how that's going to work. Unless they code them for specific route IDs

Can't they just do it per individual bus/vehicle? The operators will (should) know the routes etc that the bus takes

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#2549997 26-Aug-2020 13:25

Hopefully the QR Code is the unique Bus ID .

Knowing time of the scan and the bus ID , you can derive the route and where the person got on the bus.

If you have QR problems just take a photo of front of bus as it approaches , EXIF of photo will have time and all details of bus in the photo.

Third option is small notebook, my first covid notebook , as you will.

Scanning on the government app is a bit clunky as rather than being auto-ready for next scan after scanning a code , seems it sits there with scan button inoperative until you have confirmed ok to the last scan. In development it would not have been noticed, as any issue but when you are in a queue, you are often rushed quickly tucking phone back in your pocket .

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#2550000 26-Aug-2020 13:33

Wgtn trains seem to have unique QR codes. Disclaimer, this is from a sample set of two trains yesterday. I didn't think to check if they matched the carriage numbers or not. But a 4 digit code (5223 and 5217) could certainly match the carriage ID's if that's what they've chosen to go with.

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#2550016 26-Aug-2020 14:06

geoffwnz:

Wgtn trains seem to have unique QR codes. Disclaimer, this is from a sample set of two trains yesterday. I didn't think to check if they matched the carriage numbers or not. But a 4 digit code (5223 and 5217) could certainly match the carriage ID's if that's what they've chosen to go with.

That certainly appears to be the case based on the history from my daily scans.

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