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#2874811 25-Feb-2022 14:58

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I can't help thinking the last two years has been for nothing. We are seeing now the inundation of the health service that is going to cause chaos for the treatment of all conditions. We have Delta and Omicron in the community and it is going to be hell.

It hasn't been for anything. What we get from Omicron is a fraction of what we would have had from the original strain or Delta.

It's bought us time to get vaccinated and boosted. The impact of Omicron won't be significant compared to what the same outbreak would have been 18 months ago.

It's a shame we didn't do more to prepare, but that belongs in other threads.

I know what you are saying. However as the thread title goes this really, really applies to me. As this situation escalates as it will my ability and the ability of the several hundred folk in the support group I help run to access primary health care will become extremely difficult placing lives at risk.

Folks seem to be overlooking that it is not only Omicron we have Delta in the community.

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#2874816 25-Feb-2022 15:05

MikeB4:

I know what you are saying. However as the thread title goes this really, really applies to me. As this situation escalates as it will my ability and the ability of the several hundred folk in the support group I help run to access primary health care will become extremely difficult placing lives at risk.

Folks seem to be overlooking that it is not only Omicron we have Delta in the community.

At the rate we are seeing case increases, we can expect to have this mostly over with pretty quickly. Clinical services at hospitals are continuing to operate, non-essentials will go by the wayside for a short while.

Whilst I totally get your concerns (I have some health issues that makes this outbreak scary too), there is a great saying I share a lot.

Can you control this? No? Then don't worry about it.

Can you control this? Yes, then don't worry about it.

It takes a bit to sink in, but it has got me through what was probably the worst last 6 months of my life.

Turn off your radio, social media and news feeds, and minimize your contacts as much as you can.

That is what you can control.

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#2874828 25-Feb-2022 15:19

networkn:

MikeB4:

I know what you are saying. However as the thread title goes this really, really applies to me. As this situation escalates as it will my ability and the ability of the several hundred folk in the support group I help run to access primary health care will become extremely difficult placing lives at risk.

Folks seem to be overlooking that it is not only Omicron we have Delta in the community.

At the rate we are seeing case increases, we can expect to have this mostly over with pretty quickly. Clinical services at hospitals are continuing to operate, non-essentials will go by the wayside for a short while.

Whilst I totally get your concerns (I have some health issues that makes this outbreak scary too), there is a great saying I share a lot.

Can you control this? No? Then don't worry about it.

Can you control this? Yes, then don't worry about it.

It takes a bit to sink in, but it has got me through what was probably the worst last 6 months of my life.

Turn off your radio, social media and news feeds, and minimize your contacts as much as you can.

That is what you can control.

I endorse this 100%. I am quite anxious about the Omicron explosion, although my health is okay. But I am 'vulnerable' based on my age and lung condition. I have no idea what would happen if I did get it. I can control my exposure risk to some extent and I do. Beyond that I just turn off the static and hope for the best. What will be will be.

Worrying about something doesn't make it better. It just adds worry to whatever else happens. Whatever else may already be bad enough if it does indeed happen. Why pile the worry on top of that? At least the worry is something I can control.

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#2874940 25-Feb-2022 15:41

networkn:

MikeB4:

I know what you are saying. However as the thread title goes this really, really applies to me. As this situation escalates as it will my ability and the ability of the several hundred folk in the support group I help run to access primary health care will become extremely difficult placing lives at risk.

Folks seem to be overlooking that it is not only Omicron we have Delta in the community.

At the rate we are seeing case increases, we can expect to have this mostly over with pretty quickly. Clinical services at hospitals are continuing to operate, non-essentials will go by the wayside for a short while.

Whilst I totally get your concerns (I have some health issues that makes this outbreak scary too), there is a great saying I share a lot.

Can you control this? No? Then don't worry about it.

Can you control this? Yes, then don't worry about it.

It takes a bit to sink in, but it has got me through what was probably the worst last 6 months of my life.

Turn off your radio, social media and news feeds, and minimize your contacts as much as you can.

That is what you can control.

Sometimes you can help feel in control more by doing practical steps to prepare and being awre you have a plan.

For Example:

I have been slowly building up supplies (especially UHT Milk and other long life products) so as not to "have" to go shopping for the family.

Also booking weekly well in advance for supermarket Click and Collect or delivery so the orders overlap, and if online ordering goes crazy still have a slot with essential weekly supplies at least 8 days ahead.

Getting KN95 masks well in advance, and using a cellphone UV steriliser to sterilise them after every use.

Helping others with 3D printed items they need (i.e. mask accessories to improve fit)

The feeling of doing practical perparation things helps me manage the stress a lot- especially as whole family has health issues of one sort or another.

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#2874958 25-Feb-2022 16:17

freitasm:

Daughter off school today, complaining of a sore throat. RAT test available at testing centre, came back negative after ten minutes, waiting another ten minutes then she's free to go.

Which testing center did you go to @freitasm? Did you have to queue? I talked to my pharmacist this morning, they said they don't have RATs and don't know when they'll get them, you have to go to a testing center or the doc.

My son had a mild cold Monday morning, we booked a test that was Tuesday midday, we got the result Friday late afternoon, so it's four days right now to get a test. With the RATs coming in that will drop. Somewhat frustrating for my wife to have to take a week off work because of this.

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#2874961 25-Feb-2022 16:25

Wellington city but only available to essential workers and some people that satisfy certain conditions - in our case our daughter has a diagnosed anxiety and was given the authorisation to collect one. You will need to talk to your GP to see when their practices have the tests available to patients.

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#2874970 25-Feb-2022 16:48

What strikes me as odd is that Omicron is assumed to be 'the end'

Nobody is really looking beyond that. The next one could be less nasty than Omicron. Or much worse than Delta......

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#2874976 25-Feb-2022 16:56

Geektastic: What strikes me as odd is that Omicron is assumed to be 'the end'

Nobody is really looking beyond that. The next one could be less nasty than Omicron. Or much worse than Delta......

That is why I wrote before - what if we see "Pi" coming out during winter?

People are really behaving like "oh, that's it, this is the last one"

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#2874988 25-Feb-2022 17:27

And even if this is 'the end' of SARS-COVID-2, we will get another pandemic.

So long as we allow huge numbers of people to freely cris-cross the world on cheap high capacity air transport, whatever germ comes next will outrun the public health measures until or unless the gates slam shut.

Remember, this worldwide pandemic seems to have started from clothing designers and manufacturers shuttling back & forth between Milan and Wuhan. And from Milan, on to Paris, New York and around the world. Without the air travel, it may have stayed confined within China.
That's not intended as an argument against air travel by the way, it's just pointing out that an inherent aspect of the modern global economy is that the human race is much more susceptible to global pandemics than it used to be.

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#2874993 25-Feb-2022 17:43

networkn:

There is definitely something going around that isn't Covid. It's what we all had. Sore throats, cough, no fever. My son had a runny nose as did my wife, I didn't.

My daughter's a nurse in Dunedin. She said there was a recent outbreak there of respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) which is particularly rough on elderly people and children. Seems it didn't get a lot of media coverage.

EDIT: https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatments/diseases-and-illnesses/respiratory-syncytial-virus-rsv

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#2875086 25-Feb-2022 18:54

Geektastic: What strikes me as odd is that Omicron is assumed to be 'the end'

Nobody is really looking beyond that. The next one could be less nasty than Omicron. Or much worse than Delta......

I keep telling people this.

What if the next one has a high R0 like Omicron but has a kill rate of 30%?

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#2875092 25-Feb-2022 19:14

I read that viruses tend to become less virulent over time, but it's possible it mutates worse. There will be another pandemic, hopefully once this one calms down more preparation is done, maybe a general pandemic plan / app / etc.

Is there any point scanning in now that contract tracers aren't following anything up?

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#2875104 25-Feb-2022 19:49

timmmay:

Is there any point scanning in now that contract tracers aren't following anything up?

Why stop is the question.

The tracers are scaled back and cannot do it manually. That's all that's changed. each one of us can still and help send alerts. Ie, the whole idea of SELF CONTACT TRACING and doing their investigation for the team that now no longer can

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=161&topicid=265423&page_no=2309#2874954 and a few posts before.

Need to ask ourselves, Would you feel better telling someone you went to dinner with 3 nights ago who lives with an elderly mother they may have been exposed by means of you having and sharing your diary that a RAT advised you.

Or.… hear someone linked to you has got it or worse and worry you might have been the source after that rat result.

It's a long form to fill out to remember your movements for the last 14 days to advise people, vs uploading your keys and log.