2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2542271 16-Aug-2020 14:56

COVID-19 Surge at Georgia School After Mask-less Group Photo

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A US high school Georgia has shut down after dozens in the district tested positive for COVID-19. Some students are sharing images from their first week of school showing very few masks and little social distancing. One photo showing a group of students posing side-by-side without masks was widely circulated online. Inside Edition's Lisa Guerrero asked sophomore Jonathan Linville if students were social distancing before the shutdown. "Not at all," Jonathan said.

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#2542273 16-Aug-2020 15:00

Hemi88: I reckon the person who made that post on Facebook page should be charged because there’s people who are going to believe no matter what it’s disappointing at a time when we all should be working together

They could invoke the Harmful Communications Act and get these people for spreading lies and bullying.

I cannot understand why having some tools at hand the government do not use them. Unless they are afraid of the opposition crying "our rights!"

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#2542275 16-Aug-2020 15:04

Coronavirus: Some Florida Schools Reopen For In-Person Learning

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Florida opened some of its public schools for in-person learning as cautionary tales continue to emerge from other states.

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#2542279 16-Aug-2020 15:07

freitasm:They could invoke the Harmful Communications Act and get these people for spreading lies and bullying.

I cannot understand why having some tools at hand the government do not use them. Unless they are afraid of the opposition crying "our rights!"

Regarding Facebook, my post in the Trump thread might be relevant.

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#2542281 16-Aug-2020 15:10

@freitasm Something needs to be done the more sh*t the is going around has the very real problem of doing all of the the hard work that got us the 100 days of Covid free

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#2542283 16-Aug-2020 15:15

They were asked during standup if anything was being done to work with the social companies to quash it.
No

He thanked the media for attempts to de-escalate it and running stories why rumors hurt

They backed it up by saying only believe data from 1pm and the .govt socials. (That basically also snubs half the media BS. But the wrong audience would have taken note)

And reaffirmed they are pushing sponsored posts as it is a valid method of mass reach (its so sad our world has come to such a place) in an attempt to be ahead of the game.

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#2542286 16-Aug-2020 15:22

Fred99:

Criticising you for repeated calls to "fire AB" is not refuting that errors may have been made. If you expect perfection in "everything" and the penalty for any failure is to lose your job, then "screeching Karen" fits.

If you think NZ is at risk of becoming a lawless banana republic - you're dreaming.

Because as a first world country we should just keep comparing ourselves to banana republics. People need to seriously get real: don't mistake "Not as bad as the USA!" as success or serious leadership. Asking people to not allow their department to run itself like some lawless gang (again, I do wonder how many of the AB defenders have bothered to read the Christiansen decision -- albeit it's probably above the comprehension abilities of 90% of NZ adults) or not to draw up policies and then completely ignore them isn't the same thing as wanting to fire someone for making a mistake.

But keep failing Reading for Five Year Olds. It's entertaining.

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#2542294 16-Aug-2020 15:39

Entry into Auckland from south.

About to return home (northern outskirts of Auckland) after 5 days in Rotorua (arrived there just before announcement of the new cases).

Does anyone know what the time delay is getting through the road block at Bombay?

Would it be quicker to come into Auckland via Clevedon? Shorter queues that way? Or do they reroute people through Bombay anyway?

Tempting to extend our stay down south until the fortnight is up though 😊.

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#2542295 16-Aug-2020 15:42

Never mind that he and the PM and many other less visible people have been working long hours every day for months under tremendous stress. Sometimes you can see the tiredness on their faces. I find them to be inspirational figures who deserve nothing but our grateful thanks.

Edit: This in response to the post by @Freitasm several items back. I missed a page.

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#2542296 16-Aug-2020 15:45

If the government doesn’t want people to believe what they see on social media, the government should cease to use it to disseminate information...!

That way, they can say “Anything you read on social media is not official”

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#2542299 16-Aug-2020 15:51

dejadeadnz:
Fred99:

Criticising you for repeated calls to "fire AB" is not refuting that errors may have been made. If you expect perfection in "everything" and the penalty for any failure is to lose your job, then "screeching Karen" fits.

If you think NZ is at risk of becoming a lawless banana republic - you're dreaming.

Because as a first world country we should just keep comparing ourselves to banana republics. People need to seriously get real: don't mistake "Not as bad as the USA!" as success or serious leadership. Asking people to not allow their department to run itself like some lawless gang (again, I do wonder how many of the AB defenders have bothered to read the Christiansen decision -- albeit it's probably above the comprehension abilities of 90% of NZ adults) or not to draw up policies and then completely ignore them isn't the same thing as wanting to fire someone for making a mistake.

But keep failing Reading for Five Year Olds. It's entertaining.

I don't see the Christiansen decision being a massive gotcha.

I'm also perplexed at your condescending tone. Not exactly the way to encourage people to see the merit in your arguments, valid or otherwise.

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#2542303 16-Aug-2020 15:54

GV27:

ezbee:

Almost 2/3 never tested and the staff themselves outing concerns to media says the excuse of "we can't force people" was utter rubbish.

I agree this was a pretty bad answer given we're now forcing people under health orders to go into quarantine if they test positive.

Sending someone into quarantine is one thing, making them take a Covid test is completely different:

NZ Bill Of Rights Act 1990, Section 11

"Right to refuse to undergo medical treatment

Everyone has the right to refuse to undergo any medical treatment."

http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1990/0109/latest/DLM225509.html?search=sw_096be8ed80b62589_medical_25_se&p=1&sr=2

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#2542305 16-Aug-2020 15:57

I can't see this posted here previously. This is interesting information about the strain of Covid-19 involved in the current outbreak. I had wondered where this strain had been seen previously because it is new to NZ.

B.1.1.1.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12356833&s=09

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#2542306 16-Aug-2020 15:57

Some sensible recommendations here (Prof Skegg)

1News: Covid-19: How NZ can avoid future lockdowns. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/covid-19-nz-can-avoid-future-lockdowns

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#2542307 16-Aug-2020 15:58

PolicyGuy:

Sending someone into quarantine is one thing, making them take a Covid test is completely different:

NZ Bill Of Rights Act 1990, Section 11

"Right to refuse to undergo medical treatment

Everyone has the right to refuse to undergo any medical treatment."

http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1990/0109/latest/DLM225509.html?search=sw_096be8ed80b62589_medical_25_se&p=1&sr=2

I agree people should have the right to refuse to be tested. I also strongly feel anyone who does refuse should be forcibly (if necessary) placed in quarantine at their own expense for the required period of time.

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