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#3200748 28-Feb-2024 10:37

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Just like this muppet at the local NZ Post depot back at Christmas.

When someone parks behind as well he will really be stuffed.

That's my car in front. I intentionally parked there so they had to go to some effort to go around me.

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#3202253 1-Mar-2024 22:52

Please tell me you lot are not passing up opportunities to lift up the window wipers as you spot these?

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#3204823 9-Mar-2024 17:35

I was driving down the street, and there was a car in the parking lane. I wasn't paying that much attention until I heard a scraping/crunching noise... and noticed that she was driving right over the top of these.

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#3214056 4-Apr-2024 09:06

The muppet on the motorbike who pulled up to a very busy controlled intersection, wearing t-shirt, sneakers and no gloves, then proceeded to drive through the red light. How on earth you are still in one piece amazes me.

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#3214246 4-Apr-2024 16:00

I had a muppet behind the wheel of a bus nearly take me out this morning while I was stopped at a "Stop/Go" sign, where the roadworks begin.

Thanfully, I'd stopped about a car length behind the cones, where the two-way system was restored. Bus came up the single lane, then instead of moving to his left (my right) he just kept coming straight at me. I would have been crushed if I hadn't immediately jumped on the gas and floored it up onto the curb!

Stop/Go sign guy shouted expletives at the bus driver as he summarily swerved to avoid hitting the car behind me and squashed a number of cones. Bus driver gave exactly zero hoots.
Where do these people get their licences??

EDIT: Illustration to try to explain

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#3214257 4-Apr-2024 16:33

Handsomedan:

I had a muppet behind the wheel of a bus nearly take me out this morning while I was stopped at a "Stop/Go" sign, where the roadworks begin.

Thanfully, I'd stopped about a car length behind the cones, where the two-way system was restored. Bus came up the single lane, then instead of moving to his left (my right) he just kept coming straight at me. I would have been crushed if I hadn't immediately jumped on the gas and floored it up onto the curb!

Stop/Go sign guy shouted expletives at the bus driver as he summarily swerved to avoid hitting the car behind me and squashed a number of cones. Bus driver gave exactly zero hoots.
Where do these people get their licences??

Send your dashcam footage to the Police, asking them to prosecute for Negligent or Reckless Driving, and to the bus company complaining about unacceptable driving standards

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#3214295 4-Apr-2024 20:04

PolicyGuy:
Handsomedan:

I had a muppet behind the wheel of a bus nearly take me out this morning while I was stopped at a "Stop/Go" sign, where the roadworks begin.

Thanfully, I'd stopped about a car length behind the cones, where the two-way system was restored. Bus came up the single lane, then instead of moving to his left (my right) he just kept coming straight at me. I would have been crushed if I hadn't immediately jumped on the gas and floored it up onto the curb!

Stop/Go sign guy shouted expletives at the bus driver as he summarily swerved to avoid hitting the car behind me and squashed a number of cones. Bus driver gave exactly zero hoots.
Where do these people get their licences??

Send your dashcam footage to the Police, asking them to prosecute for Negligent or Reckless Driving, and to the bus company complaining about unacceptable driving standards

I was unfortunately in my youngest son’s car, so no dashcam.

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#3214832 5-Apr-2024 22:13

I'd want to see the markings and layout as seen from the bus side. I have seen some bad layouts. That said, your story is convincing.

I sometimes think there is a problem with 30kmh signs being overused and then almost no-one actually does 30kph unless they see a good reason and that is going to be too late sometimes. I have no doubt the signs are employed exactly according to regulation. It's not an easy one. Selective blindness for some people I imagine.

Bus companies have penalty clauses with transport funders I think. I suspect some of that stress is passed on to the drivers somehow. Some very stupid situations can develop when there is no flexibility.

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#3216084 9-Apr-2024 13:27

gzt:...

I sometimes think there is a problem with 30kmh signs being overused and then almost no-one actually does 30kph unless they see a good reason and that is going to be too late sometimes. I have no doubt the signs are employed exactly according to regulation...

I have no evidence to back this up but looking at the ones I sometimes see it appears to me that their placement is a lot more arbitrary than 'according to regulation'. More like at the whim of poorly trained or simply "I don't care what effect this has on traffic flow" traffic management company employees. I also feel this is one of the causes of the poor compliance.

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#3216197 9-Apr-2024 14:01

floydbloke:

gzt:...

I sometimes think there is a problem with 30kmh signs being overused and then almost no-one actually does 30kph unless they see a good reason and that is going to be too late sometimes. I have no doubt the signs are employed exactly according to regulation...

I have no evidence to back this up but looking at the ones I sometimes see it appears to me that their placement is a lot more arbitrary than 'according to regulation'. More like at the whim of poorly trained or simply "I don't care what effect this has on traffic flow" traffic management company employees. I also feel this is one of the causes of the poor compliance.

In case you didn't know, what is supposed to happen is that a design for the traffic management is produced by the body who wants to do that job. Then the design is reviewed by the appropriate authority for that road in that area, a council for example.

So in theory, there isn't much room for placement of cones and signs willy nilly.

Having said that, if the rules of traffic management designs are enforced as slackly as other road rules, or rules in general, then it's open slather.

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#3216263 9-Apr-2024 16:27

gzt: I'd want to see the markings and layout as seen from the bus side. I have seen some bad layouts. That said, your story is convincing.

I sometimes think there is a problem with 30kmh signs being overused and then almost no-one actually does 30kph unless they see a good reason and that is going to be too late sometimes. I have no doubt the signs are employed exactly according to regulation. It's not an easy one. Selective blindness for some people I imagine.

Bus companies have penalty clauses with transport funders I think. I suspect some of that stress is passed on to the drivers somehow. Some very stupid situations can develop when there is no flexibility.

Same goes for 70kmh and other "temporary" speed reductions. The Waikato Expressway had a classic example. From just before Christmas till about a week ago there was a 6 km stretch of road near Rangiriri where there was 70kmh for "roadworks". Work only took place for about the last three weeks yet there was a 70kmh limit in place all that time. Talk about cry wolf and create the impression that temporary speed limits for road works are also applied to situations where they're not needed. Result no one took a scrap of notice of the 70kmh signs and carried on their merry way at 110kmh.

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#3216268 9-Apr-2024 16:33

elpenguino:

floydbloke:

gzt:...

I sometimes think there is a problem with 30kmh signs being overused and then almost no-one actually does 30kph unless they see a good reason and that is going to be too late sometimes. I have no doubt the signs are employed exactly according to regulation...

I have no evidence to back this up but looking at the ones I sometimes see it appears to me that their placement is a lot more arbitrary than 'according to regulation'. More like at the whim of poorly trained or simply "I don't care what effect this has on traffic flow" traffic management company employees. I also feel this is one of the causes of the poor compliance.

In case you didn't know, what is supposed to happen is that a design for the traffic management is produced by the body who wants to do that job. Then the design is reviewed by the appropriate authority for that road in that area, a council for example.

So in theory, there isn't much room for placement of cones and signs willy nilly.

Having said that, if the rules of traffic management designs are enforced as slackly as other road rules, or rules in general, then it's open slather.

I remember being told some time back that roadwork signs were only supposed to be displayed while the work was taking place and that they had to be taken down when there was no work taking place or the conditions (loose gravel etc) weren't present. There were plenty of occasions where the contractors were too lazy to take the signs down and I know of someone who had the authority to do so who laid the signs down so that they were not on display.

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#3216273 9-Apr-2024 16:36

Technofreak:

Same goes for 70kmh and other "temporary" speed reductions. The Waikato Expressway had a classic example. From just before Christmas till about a week ago there was a 6 km stretch of road near Rangiriri where there was 70kmh for "roadworks". Work only took place for about the last three weeks yet there was a 70kmh limit in place all that time. Talk about cry wolf and create the impression that temporary speed limits for road works are also applied to situations where they're not needed. Result no one took a scrap of notice of the 70kmh signs and carried on their merry way at 110kmh.

A "temporary" 60 km/h was set up on the Whakatane-Ohope road "to make it safer over Christmas". That was Christmas 2022 and the signs (including the word "temporary") are still there ~18 months later.

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#3216275 9-Apr-2024 16:37

gzt: I'd want to see the markings and layout as seen from the bus side. I have seen some bad layouts. That said, your story is convincing.

I sometimes think there is a problem with 30kmh signs being overused and then almost no-one actually does 30kph unless they see a good reason and that is going to be too late sometimes. I have no doubt the signs are employed exactly according to regulation. It's not an easy one. Selective blindness for some people I imagine.

Bus companies have penalty clauses with transport funders I think. I suspect some of that stress is passed on to the drivers somehow. Some very stupid situations can develop when there is no flexibility.

The bus came up the road on the right hand side (as the road was reduced to a single lane for resurfacing).

Just where it was supposed to change back to the laft hand side, where the cones were clearly marking the change back to a two-way system, these was one of these:
Regulatory traffic sign with keep left arrow on a circular blue background

Pretty obvious, along with the cones, cars, man with a stop/go sign etc.
That bus driver was just a poor driver, inattentive, or brain-dead...or possibly all three.

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#3216366 9-Apr-2024 20:25

Truck driver this morning on SH2 between Ngatea and Paeroa.

New Seal, many signs and cones, and a 50k warning sign, then a 50k speed sign.

Barrels into the new seal seemingly without slowing.

I saw him coming so pulled over as far as I could and slowed to probably 20-30. Still got showered with stones all over the car. Thanks a$$hat.

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