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#2071281 10-Aug-2018 13:24

djtOtago:

If you install un-approved software from some 3rd party, wouldn't that now make your car "Modified" from manufactures specifications?

I wonder what insurance companies would make of that?

The update is Nissan-sourced. Not written by a 3rd-party.

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#2071437 10-Aug-2018 16:29

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djtOtago:

If you install un-approved software from some 3rd party, wouldn't that now make your car "Modified" from manufactures specifications?

I wonder what insurance companies would make of that?

The update is Nissan-sourced. Not written by a 3rd-party.

Are you talking about the "official" update released in early August 2018 by Nissan NZ, or the "unofficial" update released in June 2018 by EV's Enhanced, or possibly both of these?

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#2075035 17-Aug-2018 21:01

https://www.noted.co.nz/currently/environment/ev-battery-scare-shows-urgent-need-support-green-technology/

The above article dated 17 August 2018, suggests that NZ consumer law may not be "match-fit" for new green technology! The 30 kWh Nissan Leaf's "battery scare" is the focal point of the article. Here's a short extract from the article:

"Yet, had it not been for the voluntary research of Flip the Fleet and Walter Larason from EVs Enhanced in Christchurch, with access to sophisticated testing facilities beyond the capability of the average automotive garage, EVs might still be under an unnecessary cloud.

The fact that consumer law may not be match-fit for new green technology should immediately galvanise regulatory authorities and politicians. We can’t continue to rely on the good work of volunteer groups to detect and solve teething troubles. Regulators need to ensure such technology is well supported. It is risky to base EV uptake on second-hand vehicles – cast-offs from other countries that are no longer covered by the manufacturer’s warranty once they reach us. Instead, we need to invest upfront in incentivising entry of the latest EV models into the country.

Like the Leaf, green technology is often a big investment and the sniff of a hassle will deter families and businesses alike."

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#2075310 18-Aug-2018 14:55

frednz:

Like the Leaf, green technology is often a big investment and the sniff of a hassle will deter families and businesses alike."

OK, we get it. You're not buying a Leaf.

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#2075343 18-Aug-2018 15:40

SaltyNZ:

frednz:

Like the Leaf, green technology is often a big investment and the sniff of a hassle will deter families and businesses alike."

OK, we get it. You're not buying a Leaf.

The quote you made from my post is actually part of the informative Listener article that I linked to, I didn't write the above sentence about "the sniff of a hassle".

I thought the article was worth quoting because it actually puts NZ research and expertise in a very good light, such as this extract from the article, which was also quoted in my post:

"Yet, had it not been for the voluntary research of Flip the Fleet and Walter Larason from EVs Enhanced in Christchurch, with access to sophisticated testing facilities beyond the capability of the average automotive garage, EVs might still be under an unnecessary cloud."

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#2075595 19-Aug-2018 07:08

The issue with 30kwh batteries was under investigation by Nissan US because of battery swaps being done so early. When they analysed the batteries there was no degradation.

I don’t think it was FTF that caused the patch to be developed, but I’m happy to be corrected. FTF gave us an awareness of the issue.

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#2075622 19-Aug-2018 10:51

FTF might have raised the issue more effectively because of sample size of several hundred cars, and published by acknowledged academics with appropriate statistical analysis.

Rather than a number of people complaining on forums.

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#2077338 22-Aug-2018 12:13

Had the 30KW Leaf software update at Auckland city Nissan yesterday. Only took about 45 minutes.

Range increased with 14KM with battery only at 50% charge at the time. And SOH went from 83% to 93%! Worth the $115.

Haven't noticed any other changes yet. Looking forward to my next full charge and increased GOM distance which went down to 150km before the upgrade.

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#2077341 22-Aug-2018 12:18

Had mine done On Tuesday at Jim Wright Nissan Hamilton One before me and another followed my upgrade took about 45 minutes got a free wash. Went from 80% Soh to 90%. Increased In Gom added 24 kms. Around town getting just under 200Kms. Worth the $115

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#2078072 23-Aug-2018 17:30

Just had my 30KW Leaf software update at Manukau Nissan today

it went from SOH 81.62 to 91.57 most happy

I get the feeling that the driving mode has changeged re the regen

I drive mainly in B Mode and it feels like its doing more aggressive regen than before

Has anyone else had this experience? ( It not a bad change just different..)

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#2078073 23-Aug-2018 17:32

Has anyone found their Leaf sometimes lights the collision avoidence light

which stays on for a number of minutes?

It seems to do this on occasion when driving into the sun

Any idea to fix this?

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#2078162 23-Aug-2018 20:50

daparrot:
Has anyone found their Leaf sometimes lights the collision avoidence light

which stays on for a number of minutes?

It seems to do this on occasion when driving into the sun

Any idea to fix this?

Assume this is second generation leaf (2018).

Is it a camera based system? Subarus eyesight is camera based, and it gets sunstrike too. Will cut out the adaptive cruise control, and flash colliaion avoidance disabled lights.

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#2078163 23-Aug-2018 20:53

daparrot:

Has anyone found their Leaf sometimes lights the collision avoidence light

which stays on for a number of minutes?

It seems to do this on occasion when driving into the sun

Any idea to fix this?

This happens in my 2016 Leaf too. I clear fault codes with Leafspy and wait a few minutes, its only happened twice in the last year.

I think it clears itself sometimes? But it went on for a whole day last time I cleared the codes to get rid of it.

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#2078181 23-Aug-2018 21:33

happyfunball:

This happens in my 2016 Leaf too. I clear fault codes with Leafspy and wait a few minutes, its only happened twice in the last year.

I think it clears itself sometimes? But it went on for a whole day last time I cleared the codes to get rid of it.

Yes its a 2016 30kw Leaf

Usually it clears within a few minutes, a couple of times it took about 10 minutes

I do suspect its something overloading the camera that makes it lock out for a period of time

On a couple of occasions the car refused to go into drive as the collision light was up.

A power down and up seemed to clear it

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#2078226 24-Aug-2018 06:59

I have had it a few ways: for one as stated above, part of the system is camera based (next to the rear view mirror) - in sun strike situations that camera is as blinded by the sun as you are, so you will find the warning light comes on until you get out of the sun strike and then it will go away. Secondly once in a huge downpour I splashed through some water and it came on then and stayed on for a minute or two, and then briefly the next morning. I assume in that case some water splashed onto the radar and affected it.

However, in neither case did it affect driving: it was just warning me that the system wasn't working.

I have had it warn me (and now by warn I mean "I think you're going to hit something") once when a guy darted across the road in front of me. In that situation I had already seen him and was never going to actually hit him so it was only the first stage warning. Quite often when driving around Whagaparaoa on the narrow roads with cars parked (like Vipond Rd) the radar part tinkles to let me know there's a parked car ahead of me.

I've never had it go past first stage warning. I hope it never has to!

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