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#2081076 29-Aug-2018 19:53

No, B-mode is just a convenience feature, same as Eco mode. Neither of them allow you to break the laws of physics. Eco mode just severely limits the motor power, and B-mode applies maximum possible regeneration with foot off accelerator instead of coasting. I almost never use Eco mode, but I think B-mode should be the default mode instead of D. It just feels so much nicer to drive. I get into a normal car with normal brakes now and wonder if they're faulty.

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#2081089 29-Aug-2018 20:26

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afe66: Above reminds me why I paid a little more 2 years ago to get the most basic UK leaf.

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B-mode was worth the extra, even with a Japanese head unit.

Is B mode different between UK and Japanese versions? In my experience B mode is a convenience feature rather than an energy saving one, once you know how to drive an EV. Genuinely convenient but I wouldn't expect a miracle in energy savings.

I liked the Japanese version since its Aluminum instead of steel, the car is a bit lighter. They got a bit miserly on the UK version in that respect.

The headunit can be swapped for a UK version, but that costs over $400. The UK versions I saw last year were a lot more than $400 above the Japanese versions so that didn't make sense to me, unless you want the 6.6kw AC charger, which must be great for those who drive a lot. We charge twice a week so no biggie :)

My understanding of the steel doors on the UK LEAF is they were needed to meet the more stringent crash regs in the EU.

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#2082876 2-Sep-2018 19:51

The official reveal of the Nissan Leaf E-Plus electric model is expected to occur during the L.A. Auto Show in November.

Nissan is keeping the thermal management, currently passive, a very closely guarded secret.

From the sole source Autoguide, no collaboration elsewhere I can find

https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/07/long-range-nissan-leaf-e-plus-coming-2019-will-200-hp.html

Long Range Nissan Leaf E-Plus Coming in 2019, Will Have 200 HP

The long-range Nissan Leaf, which will arrive for the 2019 model year, will get a boost in power and will be called E-Plus, the Japanese automaker has confirmed to AutoGuide.

"Speaking at a special event promoting the automaker’s upcoming Formula E race program, Nissan’s director of EV Marketing and Sales Strategy, Brian Maragno, revealed some details about the anticipated long-range Leaf.

Maragno said the larger battery Leaf will receive the ‘E-Plus’ badge and will get a boost in power over the 40 kWh version. The 40 kWh Leaf is rated at 142 hp, but the long-range model will have 200 hp on tap. Maragno said the larger battery simply made it possible to have more power, as the more robust motor would drain the smaller battery at a quicker rate. If you can give it more power, you might as well, right?

'When you have a bigger battery, with more capacity, it just opens up the door to be able to have more output,' he said.

“A larger capacity battery lends itself towards two things. One is obvious: more range. The other one, which is maybe a little less obvious, but equally as true, is additional horsepower and output.”

Nissan also confirmed that the long-range leaf will be sold as a 2019 model year vehicle. The automaker wouldn’t spill the beans in regards to a debut, but you can expect to see it arrive sometime later this year or in the beginning of next year. It should have over 200 miles of range on tap, but Nissan has yet to provide an exact figure."

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#2083080 3-Sep-2018 11:00

So is this the much awaited 60kwh version?

200 miles is 320km.

My current leaf does 15kwh per 100km open road so that suggests a battery smaller than 60kwh...

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#2083090 3-Sep-2018 11:17

kingdragonfly: The official reveal of the Nissan Leaf E-Plus electric model is expected to occur during the L.A. Auto Show in November.

Nissan is keeping the thermal management, currently passive, a very closely guarded secret.

Although we know the e-plus will switch to LGChem Batteries, from the previous in-house Nissan ones.....

So I'm thinking they may go with Lg's active cooling too....

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#2089541 12-Sep-2018 20:13

https://dronebelow.com/2018/09/06/apples-crumble-driverless-car-rear-ended-by-nissan-leaf/

"Apple’s Crumble! Driverless Car Rear-Ended By Nissan Leaf"

"The self-driving Lexus designed by Apple has just been involved in a crash in California. The autonomous vehicle collided near San Francisco, after being rear-ended by a 2016 Nissan Leaf which marked the first confirmation that Apple is testing such (autonomous) vehicles on the roads n California.

The Accident Took Place on the Lawrence Expressway in Slow Speeds

As Engadget first reported, the collision between Apple’s Lexus and the Nissan Leaf occured when the test vehicle was waiting for a safe gap to merge into the high traffic Lawrence Expressway. The Lexus was driving at less than 1 mph while merging, and the Nissan Leaf was moving at around 15 mph, as the report says.

Meanwhile, a report by Axios issued in August showed that human error is to blame for 92% of all the traffic accidents involving autonomous vehicles in California in recent years. The latest collision with Apple in it confirms this evidence – and proves that while AVs may be the future of transportation, the human error is the biggest hurdle to overcome.

Will this Accident Force Apple to Reveal More About its Autonomous Vehicles Strategy?"

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#2094022 20-Sep-2018 18:30

I have to put my plans to go electric on ice for a wee while sadly. However that might be no bad thing; Leafs seem to be plateauing in price, possibly due to demand or the NZD cratering :(

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#2096325 25-Sep-2018 17:50

My wife today decided to buy a Nissan Leaf so I'm trying to get up to speed with everything EV related, I need 2 recommendations if possible:

1: Best Power Company to use (we're in Wainuiomata on the Wellington Electricity Network), from what I've seen Meridian would work out well but keen to see what others use. We are currently with Genesis and the best they can do is charge me $180 to re-program our smart meter to Day/Night config which would give us cheap rates from 11pm to 7am.

2: Best solution for charging at home, I was thinking of just getting an outside plug installed but I've seen in a local Facebook group people suggesting getting a Type 2 charger installed.

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#2096351 25-Sep-2018 18:27

DjShadow:

2: Best solution for charging at home, I was thinking of just getting an outside plug installed but I've seen in a local Facebook group people suggesting getting a Type 2 charger installed.

One option is to use the EVSE that comes with the car to charge the car, if that works well enough for you then carry on. If that doesn't get the car charged fast enough then maybe you would need to consider a type 2 charger.

I commute 70km (35km each way) and plug my car in when I get home (using a standard 10A domestic power socket in the garage), after more than a year I have not yet had the car fail to be fully charged by the time I leave for work in the morning. I had considered getting a caravan plug put into the garage or getting a type 2 charger, but there just hasn't been a need to spend that money - what I'm doing is working just fine.

I've run up ~20,000km since I bought the car, I've saved a heap of money and had absolutely zero problems mechanically. My total spend on repairs and maintenance is $35 for a puncture repair. For the purpose of commuting my Leaf has been working flawlessly, I'm glad I bought it. My next car will also be electric, I have no intention of going back to burning petrol. Even the most expensive electricity plan you can find would have the electricity under 1/3 the cost of petrol on a per km basis.

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#2096362 25-Sep-2018 18:39

MarkH67:

DjShadow:

2: Best solution for charging at home, I was thinking of just getting an outside plug installed but I've seen in a local Facebook group people suggesting getting a Type 2 charger installed.

One option is to use the EVSE that comes with the car to charge the car, if that works well enough for you then carry on. If that doesn't get the car charged fast enough then maybe you would need to consider a type 2 charger.

I commute 70km (35km each way) and plug my car in when I get home (using a standard 10A domestic power socket in the garage), after more than a year I have not yet had the car fail to be fully charged by the time I leave for work in the morning. I had considered getting a caravan plug put into the garage or getting a type 2 charger, but there just hasn't been a need to spend that money - what I'm doing is working just fine.

I've run up ~20,000km since I bought the car, I've saved a heap of money and had absolutely zero problems mechanically. My total spend on repairs and maintenance is $35 for a puncture repair. For the purpose of commuting my Leaf has been working flawlessly, I'm glad I bought it. My next car will also be electric, I have no intention of going back to burning petrol. Even the most expensive electricity plan you can find would have the electricity under 1/3 the cost of petrol on a per km basis.

Thanks that is very handy, my wife will be traveling a similar distance each day which includes a hill climb both directions.

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#2096395 25-Sep-2018 20:10

I just rented a Leaf from Pegasus rentals in Christchurch for the day; my first drive in a Leaf. I had previously rented a Jaguar i-Pace (Los Angeles) and a VW eGolf (EuropCar Christchurch)

I nearly killed a pedestrian who stepped in front of my car. I guess he didn't hear it.

Luckily the Leaf's brakes are incredible. I'm not sure if the regen kicks in on quick stops, but it had a light touch.

Acceleration was good, but not outrageous.

I loved the silence.

Overall it was very civilized, and I enjoyed it.

I'd definitely like to own one, but I want to try the Renault Zoe for comparison

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#2096504 26-Sep-2018 07:37

I find the Zoe feels a little too small after driving a leaf for 2 years.

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#2098643 29-Sep-2018 20:02

Two Dealers told me this week they have stopped importing Leafs. Plenty of new players who are bringing one or two Leaf just to try. Those do not even have LeafSpy to check the condition. Could be an opportunity for some bargain hunters there.

Another dealer told me - they are expecting price increase for all Japanese cars because of the fumigation requirements will come into effect soon.

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#2098667 29-Sep-2018 23:06

At the same time, there is talk about more incentives to get sale of electric cars going:

Government promises 'decent' incentives for electric cars

They sure have to do better than whats been done so far.

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#2098669 30-Sep-2018 00:08

There are a massive number of Nissan leaf's on the market, roughly 700 on trademe... mostly fresh imports (seems less than 10% have number plates on).

In Q3 2018 there were 637 leaf registrations. That means the market has about four months of stock on hand. I can see why some are getting the feeling the market is crowded.

Regarding the thing about government incentives, there is some risk to dealers that the incentive could devalue their stock on hand. for example if a $7k rebate was given to dealers when used leaf's left the port, then any further leaf's would undercut those already on the market....

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