According to the ad, 8 bar battery.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/nissan/auction-1952083112.htm

@afe66 the indicator of battery health are the pips that sit to the right (from driver's perspective) of the bars (which represent amount of charge). If seller says it's 8 then it probably is - this isn't something a seller who's a 2 Leaf owner is likely to under-call.

Regardless, agree leafspy would be helpful.

The photo doesn't show the State of Health bars that are parallel to the State of Charge Bars. There's nothing wrong with the car it most likely is 8 bars - the photo shows only SOH bars 10 and above, and they are extinguished. 

Take a look at the pictures in the Battery Health section of this buyers guide - you'll see what I mean.

https://samholford.github.io/leafguide/

Given it's in the seller's best interests to report a decent range, and that they report 102 km range and 8 health bars, then that's probably a fairly accurate indicative range (ie, not a photo taken after the GOM's dropped significantly after a period of spirited driving).

@Batman: it's worth noting that battery range in the Leaf is fairly significantly impacted by ambient temperature; our GOM (the reported range, also known as the guess-o-meter) registers 20-25km lower in the middle of winter compared to now (and that's in PN, so not somewhere much colder like Dunedin).

Another thing to consider is that, given the overall range of the older 24kWh Leafs is often fairly low, the then sizeable impact on battery life of driving at open-road speeds means that range can become pretty low fairly quickly.

As an example: our 2013 Leaf with 11 bars regularly reports (in summer) a range of 140km when fully charged; almost all its driving is urban. We drove it recently to a town about 55km. Based off that 140 initial range you'd may have thought we could do the return trip without recharging, whereas  we arrived there with 39% battery left! About $10 to recharge at a ChargeNet station, so not necessarily what I'd call bargain motoring.

Now imagine open-road trips with a car that normally reports 102km!

It's not that that sort of range wouldn't be fine for urban usage, where distance travelled is probably under 50km a day and one can recharge at home each night. It's just that the car's utility over longer distances/open road is seriously restricted.

afe66:
Not sure temperature makes any difference in nz.

Flip the Fleet data does show significant seasonable variation, and this is more pronounced in cooler locations; while this will be partly down to increased power usage in winter through using heaters etc, they acknowledge that "there is also some underlying physics at work here – colder batteries don’t work as efficiently as warmer ones". The use of the heater in winter would also be countered, to some degree, by increased use of aircon in summer.

https://flipthefleet.org/2018/flip-the-fleet-drivers-memo-24-tyres-energy-efficiency-and-30-kwh-leaf-batteries/

jonathan18:

 

Given it's in the seller's best interests to report a decent range, and that they report 102 km range and 8 health bars, then that's probably a fairly accurate indicative range (ie, not a photo taken after the GOM's dropped significantly after a period of spirited driving).

 

@Batman: it's worth noting that battery range in the Leaf is fairly significantly impacted by ambient temperature; our GOM (the reported range, also known as the guess-o-meter) registers 20-25km lower in the middle of winter compared to now (and that's in PN, so not somewhere much colder like Dunedin).

 

Another thing to consider is that, given the overall range of the older 24kWh Leafs is often fairly low, the then sizeable impact on battery life of driving at open-road speeds means that range can become pretty low fairly quickly.

 

As an example: our 2013 Leaf with 11 bars regularly reports (in summer) a range of 140km when fully charged; almost all its driving is urban. We drove it recently to a town about 55km. Based off that 140 initial range you'd may have thought we could do the return trip without recharging, whereas  we arrived there with 39% battery left! About $10 to recharge at a ChargeNet station, so not necessarily what I'd call bargain motoring.

 

Now imagine open-road trips with a car that normally reports 102km!

 

It's not that that sort of range wouldn't be fine for urban usage, where distance travelled is probably under 50km a day and one can recharge at home each night. It's just that the car's utility over longer distances/open road is seriously restricted.

 

I've only had my Leaf (2012 G1 that has just dropped to 10 bars) less than a week but it seems to have settled on 137km as the reported range on a full charge. I haven't pushed it too hard yet but the dealer reckoned it'd do around 90km open road which seems about right to me.

When we first got our Leaf (Dec 17) the car typically reported 145-148km range with urban usage; we were able to make it to Raumati from PN, a distance of 95km, so not too dissimilar to what you've been told. I'm not sure I'd feel so confident doing this only 14 months on, despite only a small drop in the typical range over that time, especially given it using 60% of the battery to travel 55km.

That said, there are so many variables at play; one thing I've found on the open road is that sticking (not too far) behind a large truck can do wonders for your range!

jonathan18:

afe66:
Not sure temperature makes any difference in nz.

Flip the Fleet data does show significant seasonable variation, and this is more pronounced in cooler locations; while this will be partly down to increased power usage in winter through using heaters etc, they acknowledge that "there is also some underlying physics at work here – colder batteries don’t work as efficiently as warmer ones". The use of the heater in winter would also be countered, to some degree, by increased use of aircon in summer.

https://flipthefleet.org/2018/flip-the-fleet-drivers-memo-24-tyres-energy-efficiency-and-30-kwh-leaf-batteries/

From a message about a year ago on this forum:

numberonekiwi:

 

My understanding for a 24 or 30 kw is the chassis number if it is AZE0 2xxxxx then it is a 30kw if it is AZE0 1xxxxx then it is a 24 but I may be wrong

 

I am a contributor to the Open Vehicle Monitoring System project. This is a module you can build yourself (of buy readily assembled), connected to the car's diagnostics CAN bus and running open source software. It will continuously monitor key metrics of the car, such as SOH, SOC, temperatures, location etc and report them via a iOS or Android app, even if you are away from your car.

We are currently looking for a way to automatically detect model-year and battery size for the Nissan Leaf. One idea is to do this via the VIN that the car reports on the CAN bus. This will work for US and EU cars, that actually report a proper VIN. However, the Japanese sourced cars in New Zealand will report some kind of serial number instead (ZE0-123456 or AZE0-123456).

We would like to find out if numberonekiwi's statement is correct and can reliably be used. For people prepared to help me, would you mind posting or directly emailing me your VIN, model-year (and month if known) and battery size? 
Mine are:

       AZE0-2003xx   dec-2015  30 kwh

I suggest to mask the last 2 digits of the VIN for privacy reasons. The VIN is visible in LeafSpy-Pro and possibly also in the other LeafSpy versions.

Much appreciated,

Anko

I tried to find an answer to this but it's hard since its a single thread with numerous posts.  I just bought a 2018 Nissan Leaf (UK spec, N-Connecta).  Very happy with it but wondered about getting the GPS to work for NZ.  I was surprised that even with Apple CarPlay it still thought it was in the UK.  Funnily enough while connected even my iPhone insists it's in the UK!

I've seen Nissan Leaf 2018's being sold saying they have working NZ GPS, and one even had a photo of it working with Apple Maps in NZ.  Anyone have advice for this please?  Do I need to replace any hardware or can it be done with a software update?  Can I even do it on the SD card supplied or does it need to go to a Nissan Dealership?

Jezzza234:

 

I tried to find an answer to this but it's hard since its a single thread with numerous posts.  I just bought a 2018 Nissan Leaf (UK spec, N-Connecta).  Very happy with it but wondered about getting the GPS to work for NZ.  I was surprised that even with Apple CarPlay it still thought it was in the UK.  Funnily enough while connected even my iPhone insists it's in the UK!

 

I've seen Nissan Leaf 2018's being sold saying they have working NZ GPS, and one even had a photo of it working with Apple Maps in NZ.  Anyone have advice for this please?  Do I need to replace any hardware or can it be done with a software update?  Can I even do it on the SD card supplied or does it need to go to a Nissan Dealership?

 

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