Compared to the current Leaf, this looks way better .. but I like the IONIQ better

Batman:

 

I prefer if cars had pedestrian and cyclist collision avoidance systems too.

 

Cow catchers??

MikeAqua:

 

$55k! Holy inflated prices, Batman!

 

How can that be justified for a small car that is so much simpler than an ICEV.  EVs should be cheaper.

 

Surely Nissan are taking the p...

 

Sally Roberts is quoting a new one from the UK for NZ$45K. 

They are taking orders to be placed on behalf. 

Batman:
I would rather get an Audi twin turbo v8 for 55k

Linuxluver:

 

I'd still want a bit more, though.....

 

Wait another year for the 60kWh version?

Linuxluver:

Batman:
I would rather get an Audi twin turbo v8 for 55k

But then there's that CO2 thing again. 

Batman:

Linuxluver:

 

Batman:
I would rather get an Audi twin turbo v8 for 55k

But then there's that CO2 thing again. 

 

I don't fly in airplanes and don't use a woodburner, don't change my mobile phone or other devices unless it dies, my clothes are 15 years old, and I can't afford to maintain an Audi V8

MarkH67:

 

Linuxluver:

 

I'd still want a bit more, though.....

 

 

Wait another year for the 60kWh version?

 

Batman:

 

I prefer if cars had pedestrian and cyclist collision avoidance systems too.

 

They do - the driver ;)

Batman:

Linuxluver:

 

Batman:
I would rather get an Audi twin turbo v8 for 55k

But then there's that CO2 thing again. 

 

I don't fly in airplanes and don't use a woodburner, don't change my mobile phone or other devices unless it dies, my clothes are 15 years old, and I can't afford to maintain an Audi V8

Relax, you can use the wood burner - they're carbon neutral.

None of us can afford to replace the timing chain in an Audi V8 - wears out faster and cost's more than new batteries for an E.V. ironically.

nzkiwiman:

 

Compared to the current Leaf, this looks way better .. but I like the IONIQ better

 

I agree it looks quite nice.  But it's unclear to me what it's niche is. 

It has the size and price tag of a sedan suitable for family road trips but the range (200km) of a round towner.

I really like my 24kWh Leaf, but I do find the range a bit limiting.  It is fine for my 35km each way commute to work and back, no worries at all for that, but when I went up to Auckland to EV World last weekend I charged on the way there, up there and again on the way back - 3 times I had to stop and charge.  With the 40kWh version I would have just done a fast charge in Auckland - 1 stop!  I see 40kWh as quite a big improvement, but I wont be trading up to one.  To me a more worthwhile step up would be the 60kWh version due out a year later - that would let me drive to Auckland and back home comfortably, then I could just plug in at home again and let the car charge up while I eat/sleep/internet.

With 60kWh I could drive longer distances like 400km or 500km and only need to stop once, I could combine that stop for charging with a pee break and lunch break and stretch my legs break.  My current car on a 500km trip would need a bunch of stops, some of which would be due to the spacing of charging stations.  Even worse is that when I do stop it isn't all that practical to get 100% full on the battery so I only get 80% and have to stop sooner.  I end up not even driving for an hour and I have to stop.  With 60kWh I would have around 350km range from 100% charged and after charging to 80% at a fast charger I'd still have a respectable 280km range.  With 24kWh a longer trip requires careful planning, with 60kWh the same trip only requires a minimal amount of thought put into where the best place to stop for charging/lunch would be.

Basically I put up with some hassles and inconvenience for the advantages driving an EV gives me and I can't be bothered stumping up with a large amount of money to change what I have until I can have 60kWh which is around the necessary level to be a true game changer.

That trip to EV World: though stopping to charge 3 times was a hassle and added significantly to the time taken - it was the cheapest trip to Auckland and back I've ever done!  I charged at the WEL Network free charger in Te Kauwhata and then at the Vector free charger in Takanini and then again at the WEL network free charger in Te Kauwhata.  The only money I spent was on a Warehouse Mobile SIM card ($4) and a hot chocolate & croissant in Takanini, total spend was still less than I'd normally spend on petrol for that trip.

My work commute: I was burning ~1,000 litres of petrol per year, now I'm not.  I am now going to spend ~$2,300 less per year for the next 3 years, after that the savings will be at least $1,300 per year but may be quite a bit more, depending on exactly how much the government decides to charge EVs for RUC.

So yeah, I love my EV - But my next one will be even better with at least 60kWh, maybe even solid state batteries.