New Nissan LEAF announced!

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Topic # 222980 6-Sep-2017 12:56

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https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/05/nissans-next-leaf-is-cheaper-and-can-almost-drive-itself

Looks pretty impressive. Well over 200km range with some pretty cool tech as well - i.e. semi-autopilot!!

And the same price as the current version (actually a little bit less).

Will take a while before they filter thru to NZ via the second hand market but I will be very interested in upgrading my Gen 2 when they are available!

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Reply # 1859654 6-Sep-2017 13:00

What is the policy of Nissan NZ to selling the 2018 Leaf as a NZ-new vehicle?

Has Nissan set a new price or are they going to just let it find it's way into the second-hand market as at present?

In other words, how long is Nissan NZ going to allow this ridiculous situation of no NZ-new Leafs being sold here?

Even if NZ-new costs quite a lot more than imported second-hand Leafs, I'm sure many people would still consider it an advantage to pay this and get the full warranty and backing from the manufacturer.

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Reply # 1859659 6-Sep-2017 13:07

It is a nice looking piece of kit.

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Reply # 1859661 6-Sep-2017 13:09

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No idea, but my guess is they won't try to sell them here new. The retail price would be around 60-70K (based on the price of the original Leaf they tried to sell here). I doubt they would get too many takers at that price, especially once the second hand ones start flooding the market - but I am purely speculating!

Agreed - very nice bit of kit. Much more contemporary look and things like the e-Pedal look like a great addition.

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Reply # 1859698 6-Sep-2017 13:42

I prefer if cars had pedestrian and cyclist collision avoidance systems too.

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Reply # 1859706 6-Sep-2017 13:56

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Japan Pricing is 3.2 million en,(Assuming this is before any subsidy) equivalent to 42K NZD on pure comparison, but with GST its closer to $48 K

https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/release-5f454556692dea59782a3ffa3e0bf3b0-170906-01-e?lang=en-US

Cf. in 2010 the Japan price was 3.7 million en, which I think from memory turned in $70K (NZD:JPY was 60-70 2010-2013)

With Hyundai's IONIQ pricing at $60K , I think there is scope for Nissan to price NZD $50-$55K should they decide to re-enter the new market...

But all that will depend in NH demand, -if they sell like hot cakes in JPN, getting supply for NZ could be a problem....

It will be on sale in japan 2 October, .....

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Reply # 1859715 6-Sep-2017 14:02

frednz:

What is the policy of Nissan NZ to selling the 2018 Leaf as a NZ-new vehicle?

Has Nissan set a new price or are they going to just let it find it's way into the second-hand market as at present?

In other words, how long is Nissan NZ going to allow this ridiculous situation of no NZ-new Leafs being sold here?

Even if NZ-new costs quite a lot more than imported second-hand Leafs, I'm sure many people would still consider it an advantage to pay this and get the full warranty and backing from the manufacturer.

I think Nissan will sell the new LEAF here. Much depends on the election outcome. If the present government is returned we are less likely to see the new LEAF here.....as they can't compete with 2nd hand imports from countries with purchase incentives.

If we elect a new government I'd think many things will change.......as doing something about reducing emissions will then be a priority.

I spoke to someone at Nissan last week and they thought they would be selling the new LEAF here.......though there was a question mark around the context....

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Reply # 1859717 6-Sep-2017 14:05

Haven't seen it in person - anyone thinks it looks like a Honda Jazz?

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Reply # 1859721 6-Sep-2017 14:13

Batman:

Haven't seen it in person - anyone thinks it looks like a Honda Jazz?

Reminds me of Mazda 3 in from the side someways.

Note so keen on the front or rear view with odd plastic panels.

But on the whole, not a bad lookign vehicle. Better than the Jazz IMO.

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Reply # 1859727 6-Sep-2017 14:18

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2018 Leaf

2017 jazz

Jazz has a much shorter nose.. but your point is well noted

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Reply # 1859753 6-Sep-2017 14:48

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I'd think about buying at 55k but I would want UK version Ie designed for 240v, compatible radio, English dash..

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Reply # 1859793 6-Sep-2017 16:21

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$55k! Holy inflated prices, Batman!

How can that be justified for a small car that is so much simpler than an ICEV. EVs should be cheaper.

Surely Nissan are taking the p...

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Reply # 1859794 6-Sep-2017 16:26

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I doubt Nissan are taking the p... the market is too competitive. Development costs are high and as with any early adoption prices are higher. As sales and production picks up prices of EVs will come down and I would expect cars like the Leaf will come in at about $30-$35K mark based on todays prices by 2025 and beyond.

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Reply # 1859795 6-Sep-2017 16:28

Two things.

1. I want to know if the battery has any sort of active thermal management.

2. I heard Nissan will now be reporting the usable part of the battery, not the size of the entire battery. So when the tech guy said the new LEAF would have a 40% greater range.....I did a quick calaculation and if the 28.1kWh max currently available in a new "30kWh" LEAF is multiplied by 1.4 that gives us about 39.34.....or "40kWh".

A 40% improvement in range would mean that a really bad, uphill, windy day range of 150km (worst case) of a 30kWh LEAF becomes 210km. MUCH better. But usually you could rely on 240km. A drive to Wellington from Auckland would still require about 3 charges on the way. Cambridge, Taupo, Mangaweka....and maybe a quick zap in Porirua on arrival. Still.....3 is better than 6.....which is what I did.

I'd still want a bit more, though.....

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Reply # 1859876 6-Sep-2017 18:23

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MikeAqua:
$55k! Holy inflated prices, Batman!

How can that be justified for a small car that is so much simpler than an ICEV. EVs should be cheaper.

Surely Nissan are taking the p...

I would rather get an Audi twin turbo v8 for 55k

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