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#2379643 21-Dec-2019 14:54

There not much detail about the IBM battery. They are also way over playing the ethical side of Cobalt. One Chinese company is responsible for 62% of the Cobalt from the DRC. They don't employ kids.

But it's worth noting huge amounts of Cobalt are used to remove sulphur from fossil fuels.

At least the Cobalt in EV batteries can be infinitely recycled. The Cobalt used to remove sulphur from fuels is lost for good. It becomes something else that can't be recycled.

But the fossil fuel propagandists always forget to mention that.

https://www.cobaltinstitute.org/desulphurisation.html

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#2379883 22-Dec-2019 13:20

Auto Parking | Is there any point?

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I haven’t used the self parking feature in a car for years. They used to be slow and unpredictable. It’s was just easier to parallel park yourself. Is that still the case or has the technology improved?

In order to find out I have borrowed three cars with the most advanced systems available today. A Nissan Leaf, Tesla Model D and Mercedes EQC. Time to find out who is best - AI or Human!

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#2380229 22-Dec-2019 20:10

Rivian is Beating Tesla, For Now...

Teslanomics with Ben Sullins

Rivian currently owns the EV Truck market, but with the Tesla truck unveiling coming next month, how long will they hold the crown?

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#2380566 23-Dec-2019 18:03

Definitely fan boy post.
If I won the lotto the Rivian would be my purchase hands down, especially like the transverse boot for ski or surf boards.

The Tesla truck looks ridiculous.

The content about Jaguars "substandard ev". That would be the iPace I expect. The one that won car if the year in multiple countries and 62 car awards.

Yes Tesla make very good cars but the tone of this was boring.

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#2380571 23-Dec-2019 18:15

afe66: Definitely fan boy post.
If I won the lotto the Rivian would be my purchase hands down, especially like the transverse boot for ski or surf boards.

The Tesla truck looks ridiculous.

The content about Jaguars "substandard ev". That would be the iPace I expect. The one that won car if the year in multiple countries and 62 car awards.

Yes Tesla make very good cars but the tone of this was boring.

As a Model 3 owner, if I was buying a Ute I'd be going for the Rivian over the Cybertruck.

As for the Jag, its sales have been underwhelming in the US and is why Mercedes has delayed their EQC release there.

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#2380620 23-Dec-2019 18:55

Drove from Wellington up to the Waikato today, my passenger counted 5 Tesla Cars heading southbound

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#2380622 23-Dec-2019 18:57

DjShadow:
Drove from Wellington up to the Waikato today, my passenger counted 5 Tesla Cars heading southbound

I may have been one of those! Drove down to Palmy from Auckland today

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#2380642 23-Dec-2019 21:31

kingdragonfly: Rivian is Beating Tesla, For Now...

Teslanomics with Ben Sullins

Urg.. interesting commentary , but the constantly waving hands get super annoying really quickly

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#2382661 29-Dec-2019 21:15

After a couple of years in development Turkey's electric car prototype is unveiled:

The factory is planned to produce up to 175,000 cars per year. Turkey has a substantial auto industry with Fiat, Toyota, etc. Execs are ex Bosch and GM. I'd give them every chance of success in this new market with exports into Europe.

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#2382713 30-Dec-2019 07:22

Istanbul was Constantinople

Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople

Why did Constantinople get the works?

That's nobody's business but the Turks

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#2382832 30-Dec-2019 10:59

Range remains the single issue that would still see me still choose an ICE over EV.

We've just returned from a five day trip ranging the north island, yesterday driving from Auckland to Wellington with a lunch stop at Taupo (shout out for Replete Cafe, great food & coffee).

There is no way I would have wanted to complete our trip with a limited range vehicle. EV enthusiasts will point out that there is a charging station at Taupo within an easy walk to Replete Cafe, but this is a convenience of chance and not always the case. I don't want to be forced to make periodic stops at fixed locations when on holiday.

And as EV ownership ramps up, what about demand versus supply for the limited number of charging stations. Imaging pulling into the Taupo charging station yesterday only to find several EVs lined up waiting in advance of you.

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#2382844 30-Dec-2019 11:45

dafman:

Range remains the single issue that would still see me still choose an ICE over EV.

We've just returned from a five day trip ranging the north island, yesterday driving from Auckland to Wellington with a lunch stop at Taupo (shout out for Replete Cafe, great food & coffee).

There is no way I would have wanted to complete our trip with a limited range vehicle. EV enthusiasts will point out that there is a charging station at Taupo within an easy walk to Replete Cafe, but this is a convenience of chance and not always the case. I don't want to be forced to make periodic stops at fixed locations when on holiday.

And as EV ownership ramps up, what about demand versus supply for the limited number of charging stations. Imaging pulling into the Taupo charging station yesterday only to find several EVs lined up waiting in advance of you.

Hi Dafman,

If I read you correctly you drove from Auckland to Wellington with only one stop in Taupo! Thats not normal driving practice. I would think the average driver on a trip like that would want at least 2 rest stops.

You are pretty much right about the availability of charging stations, I have to agree.New Zealand is going to need a lot more to cater for the amount of EV's wanting to charge, the same as you would expect at a petrol station. You deffinately do not want to be waiting in a que for your turn.

I think there are some EV's available now that will be quiet capable of completing you trip yesterday in a 2 stop strategy lol, sounding a bit like formulas one driver now.You know the ones, Tesla mod 3 Long Range, the Hyundai Kona with the big battery and Kea Niro,Kona, equivalent. Sorry I can not state millage for these,although there is plenty of figures available on the internet. The distance between those two centres you mention is 635 Kms.These cars should be capable of doing over 300 kms.

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#2382911 30-Dec-2019 12:58

At 7:00, starts short montage of Model Y's, but then back to questions.

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#2382959 30-Dec-2019 15:41

As the range of average EVs begins to increase dramatically over the next couple of years, the relative low number of chargers will be less of an issue than you’d think. You’ll always start the trip with a full tank, and it won’t matter if you arrive empty because you’ll plug-in at your destination. Yes, you’ll still need some, but far fewer than you need petrol stations.

You may also overestimate the size of the queues if you’re driving around Auckland. The Vector chargers are free, so why wouldn’t you use them, even if you have to queue? I’ve never had to queue for ChargeNet chargers.

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#2382973 30-Dec-2019 17:02

People look at petrol cars and how often they need to refuel, then they try to transpose the refueling requirement onto electric cars. Because electric cars take longer to recharge there would seem to be a huge potential problem.

What people often forget is the huge number of electric vehicles that don't need to stop at a fast charger, especially as range increases. I can drive to work & back without stopping to charge. In a few years I'll get a newer electric car that can drive from the Waikato to Auckland and back without needing to stop to charge. Fast chargers will only be needed for drivers on long trips as all the short trips won't involve charging stops.

We probably will need more fast chargers as the number of EVs increases, just as we will eventually end up reducing the number of petrol pumps in this country. But more range means less reliance on fast chargers. If the technology for batteries improves enough then we may end up almost never needing fast chargers and only using destination chargers for the most part.

I am definitely keen to have my next EV capable of 400+ km per charge to make longer trips much easier and to lesson my reliance on fast chargers.

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