If you want a wagon I expect we'll see the MG 5 ev here next year at under $40k (post rebate)

RobDickinson:

 

If you want a wagon I expect we'll see the MG 5 ev here next year at under $40k (post rebate)

 

A wagon isn't critical (but would be nice!), but simply a decent-sized boot for all the cr@p that's critical to take on a family holiday, such as espresso machine, balls, boogie boards, kites... 

I'd be interested to know the real-world mileage from the lowest-capacity EV6 and Ioniq-5. The performance of these isn't going to be great but I think I can live with that; the killer for us will be what I expect to be a modest range. 

I'd expect 300-320km or so?  

I'm not sure we've seen those models yet anywhere

it depends on how far you need to travel at the maximum.

assuming today's battery energy density vs motor efficiency, the more range the heavier the car, the bigger the car, the more wind resistance, so at some point you don't want to have more range.

esp in hilly otago.

afe66: What do you consider to be "modest " mileage.

Yeah, I’m assuming around the 300 range, and I would argue that’s modest relative to the outlay - that may be three times the distance of our current Leaf, but given the high cost of purchase I’m looking for as few significant compromises as possible.

At this point I’m thinking I’ll end up settling for a hybrid or holding off changing cars for a year or two. The latter is probably the best option given I’m not one to change cars regularly, and so electing for an ICE, however efficient, seems a bit silly.

I saw an Ioniq 5 parked outside my local Hyndai dealership last week, so clearly they've arrived in the country for test driving - has anyone had a drive of one yet? 

There are specs listed for all the NZ variants on Hyndai's website, with that claiming a 384km range (WLTP) for the entry-level model, so imagine I'd need to be comfortable with a real-world mixed urban/open road range of closer to 300, which certainly does make it a line call for our use.

On another site I found a 0-100 time for this spec of 8.5 secs, which isn't too surprising given it's only 125 kW/350 Nm and weighs nearly 2 tonnes!  

One thing I'd need to get used to if I do end up with either this or the EV6 is compromising on creature comforts like heated seats and certain safety features - with my beer budget it's inevitably going to be a matter of trading a top-spec ICE for an entry-spec EV.

Has anyone heard anything on when we can expect more detail (pricing etc) on the EV6, and when that may be arriving in the country?

I really like some of the new designs Hyundai are coming out with in the EV range. This will be the year that i buy a full EV supply chain permitting.

@jonathan18 check this video

(116) Hyundai Ioniq 5 review with 0-60mph test! - YouTube

jonathan18:

 

I saw an Ioniq 5 parked outside my local Hyndai dealership last week, so clearly they've arrived in the country for test driving - has anyone had a drive of one yet? 

 

There are specs listed for all the NZ variants on Hyndai's website, with that claiming a 384km range (WLTP) for the entry-level model, so imagine I'd need to be comfortable with a real-world mixed urban/open road range of closer to 300, which certainly does make it a line call for our use.

 

On another site I found a 0-100 time for this spec of 8.5 secs, which isn't too surprising given it's only 125 kW/350 Nm and weighs nearly 2 tonnes!  

 

One thing I'd need to get used to if I do end up with either this or the EV6 is compromising on creature comforts like heated seats and certain safety features - with my beer budget it's inevitably going to be a matter of trading a top-spec ICE for an entry-spec EV.

 

Has anyone heard anything on when we can expect more detail (pricing etc) on the EV6, and when that may be arriving in the country?

 

MikeB4:

 

@jonathan18 check this video

 

(116) Hyundai Ioniq 5 review with 0-60mph test! - YouTube

 

RobDickinson:

 

The base model ioniq 5 will be just under $80k.

The model Y SR will be around $77k, with 455km range (vs 384), 0-100 of about 6 seconds, heated seats, autopilot, glass roof, premium stereo etc. 

 

Totally get that the Y probably will offer best bang for buck of any 'family-friendly' EV eligible for the rebate, but the biggest barrier to me prioritising the Y is the comment I made on the previous page:

(And before the Tesla fanbois descend, I don't think I'm ready to own a car that can only be serviced in a small handful of locations, which is my main reason for being sceptical about the Y.)

I'm also to be convinced by the reliance on the screen for nearly every control and the long-term reliability issues (and potentially costs) associated with this. The lack of a pull-over cover for that glass roof does also seem an oversight (deliberate, no doubt!), given I've noted many complain about the heat of the cabin as a result. (Though this may not be such an issue in in the sunshine capital of NZ, ie PN!)

I imagine my wife maybe even harder to convince on these matters!

Any word as to when the Y will arrive?

Servicing - tesla is currently sending a mobile tech to the south of the south island for 1 week a month.  these vehicles dont really require much work though - and most of the bits that could are easily done by normal mechanics (brakes, suspension etc).

Never had a problem with heat from the roof, its IR protected, we do have a shade we can use ($20 from tessories or something) mostly due to my wifes migraines and photo sensitivity but we've not actually used it yet.

The car keeps itself coolish even when you're not in it (if enabled) and heats/cools pretty rapidly anyhow.

I dont know why you think the screen would be a long term reliability problem theres been model 3's on the road since 2017 and no issues, the screens themselves (which are just displays) are about $1500 usd new. 

As for when, end of this year or early next is anyone's best guess. I dont think we'll see customer ioniq 5's much sooner.

Sorry, should have 'serviced and repaired' - it's the latter that worries me more. (We already know the huge advantage of EVs in relation to servicing - my diesel needs six-monthly servicing at an annual cost of about $600; my wife's Leaf in the nearly four years we've owned it has required two new tyres, front wipers, and wiper fluid - that's it.) With a Tesla if something significant goes wrong I can see the risk of either having to wait for a once-monthly visit (if that's what it is also in my region - I'm in Palmerston North) or meeting the cost of transporting the car to Wellington or Auckland, neither of which is ideal. If we were in a major centre this wouldn't be a big issue.

Good to hear you don't think the heat of the glass roof is much of an issue, and there are easy solutions if it is.

I'm not sure I'd be comfortable putting money down for a Y without having seen one in the flesh, simply to confirm the boot space is adequate; for other aspects, I'd imagine taking a look at and a drive of a 3 would give enough of a feel.