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#3006571 6-Dec-2022 19:32

This is so noice!

Audi Q4 e-tron. Priced fairly good all considered. 100 bucks short of 100k. https://www.audi.co.nz/nz/web/en/models/q4-e-tron/q4-e-tron.html

Orders open in the new year locally.

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#3006609 7-Dec-2022 03:59

heavenlywild:
This is so noice!

Haptic controls on steering wheel. Did they not learn from VW?

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#3006617 7-Dec-2022 05:10

heavenlywild:

This is so noice!

Audi Q4 e-tron. Priced fairly good all considered. 100 bucks short of 100k. https://www.audi.co.nz/nz/web/en/models/q4-e-tron/q4-e-tron.html

Orders open in the new year locally.

Sorry on phone can't edit link well.

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i'm cancelling my kia order

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#3006646 7-Dec-2022 08:37

Batman:
i'm cancelling my kia order

Are you drawing a connection between the two things, ie you’re cancelling an order for a Kia (EV6?) to put an order in for a Q4?

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#3006721 7-Dec-2022 10:56

F__king Putin. With all the chaos in the last few years, he couldn't leave bad enough alone.

New Zealand Autocar: Switzerland considering EV ban amid possible energy shortage

As Europe heads into the cold of winter, Switzerland is considering banning or restricting the use of electric vehicles (EV) as a way to combat possible energy shortages citing that the ongoing conflict in Ukraine is to blame.

Multiple reports say draft legislation has been drawn up in the nation which contains restrictions on EV use, stating that they may only be used for “absolutely necessary” journeys and could extend to bans.

Other measures of combating the shortage is by imposing stricter speed limits on the nation’s highways.

The EV ban is a part of a wider scheme to reduce electricity consumption which also includes banning the use of leaf blowers, seat heaters in ski lifts, the temperature of washing machines, and even slowing video streaming speeds.

Even if the nation does encounter a shortage, electric cars will only be banned in the third tier of the power saving plan.
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#3006733 7-Dec-2022 11:12

jonathan18:
Batman:

i'm cancelling my kia order

Are you drawing a connection between the two things, ie you’re cancelling an order for a Kia (EV6?) to put an order in for a Q4?

the long range AWD kia is more expensive than the audi ... so yeah i guess

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#3006868 7-Dec-2022 13:53

Kia EV6 Air Long range $78,999.00 + ORC ( + you will get 8,625 rebate off as well)

Q4 e-tron 40 Advanced $99,990.00

EV6 faster 0 -100km (7.3s vs 8.5s) , Bigger towing capacity, Better Efficiency (16.5 kWh / 100km vs 19.6 kWh / 100kms)

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#3006932 7-Dec-2022 14:57

I believe the Q4 is a larger car than EV6.

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#3006939 7-Dec-2022 15:24

$100k car with no ventilated seats in 2022?

Do whatever you want to do man.

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#3006953 7-Dec-2022 15:38

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$100k car with no ventilated seats in 2022?

For $100K I ain't havin' no mistybutt.

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#3006954 7-Dec-2022 15:44

SaltyNZ:

For $100K I ain't havin' no mistybutt.

I'd imagine that badge premium would also buy a lot of breathable shorts and BSAC waxes.

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#3006968 7-Dec-2022 16:20

djtOtago:

Kia EV6 Air Long range $78,999.00 + ORC ( + you will get 8,625 rebate off as well)

Q4 e-tron 40 Advanced $99,990.00

EV6 faster 0 -100km (7.3s vs 8.5s) , Bigger towing capacity, Better Efficiency (16.5 kWh / 100km vs 19.6 kWh / 100kms)

He specifically mentioned AWD, for which your figures above do not apply. Yes, Q4 AWD version is still (significantly) dearer than the equivalent Kia but there is no rebate for either, so the price margin does not get distorted by that.

Only the braked towing capacity is higher for the Kia. I doubt that many privately owned trailers are braked?

Q4 AWD luggage capacity is (very) slightly larger but whether the difference is noticeable will depend on actual dimensions/ layout.

Ultimately it will come down to personal preferences and whether the additional cost is an issue or not.

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#3006973 7-Dec-2022 16:26

DS248:

Only the braked towing capacity is higher for the Kia. I doubt that many privately owned trailers are braked?

Single Axle, most are unbraked,

Double Axle (boat/car/Horse/etc) most are braked,...

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#3006986 7-Dec-2022 16:53

Lithium battery prices have just increase for the first time since at least 2010. Batteries cost 7% more in '22 than they did in '21. https://lnkd.in/etNh48bv Prices are $/kw and all values are converted to 2022 dollars. Probably reflect the increase in oil prices (freight = oil) more than anything. Machinery and labour prices won't be helping either.

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#3007021 7-Dec-2022 18:50

DS248:

djtOtago:

Kia EV6 Air Long range $78,999.00 + ORC ( + you will get 8,625 rebate off as well)

Q4 e-tron 40 Advanced $99,990.00

EV6 faster 0 -100km (7.3s vs 8.5s) , Bigger towing capacity, Better Efficiency (16.5 kWh / 100km vs 19.6 kWh / 100kms)

He specifically mentioned AWD, for which your figures above do not apply. Yes, Q4 AWD version is still (significantly) dearer than the equivalent Kia but there is no rebate for either, so the price margin does not get distorted by that.

Only the braked towing capacity is higher for the Kia. I doubt that many privately owned trailers are braked?

Q4 AWD luggage capacity is (very) slightly larger but whether the difference is noticeable will depend on actual dimensions/ layout.

Ultimately it will come down to personal preferences and whether the additional cost is an issue or not.

i think i need glasses. i thought i saw 106k ... lol

either that or there was a typo and they fixed it now

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